Intermediate video format advice wanted

ingvarai wrote on 1/5/2009, 12:40 PM
First, do you use intermediate renderings at all?

With "intermediate" I mean rendering something in Vegas with the purpose of adding it to the time line later in another project.
I recently learnt that it is possible to add a complete Vegas project to the time line in another Vegas project, and this somehow reduces the need for intermediate renderings.

Nevertheless - what format would you use?
I my case my footages are AVCHD 50i, and I so far haven't found any intermediate format to render to, without quality loss.

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kairosmatt wrote on 1/5/2009, 1:27 PM
Check out this post from earlier

Cineform has been worked well for me in the past.

Also I have found that nesting slows down the final render significantly. It was quicker for me to take out the nested project and just copy from the media over to the master timeline. That was a year ago though, haven't done any nesting since so maybe it has improved.

kairosmatt
ingvarai wrote on 1/5/2009, 1:32 PM
> Cineform has been worked well for me in the past

Yes, but my footages are 50i and as I understand I will lose the interlace advantage when rendering to any AVI, Cineform or not
John_Cline wrote on 1/5/2009, 1:38 PM
"I understand I will lose the interlace advantage when rendering to any AVI, Cineform or not."

No, that's simply not true. AVI files can contain interlaced video and they always could.

You might want to look into the new $129 NEO Scene software and codec from Cineform. I bought it earlier today and it works great for intermediate files, particularly for AVCHD.

http://www.cineform.com/products/NeoScene.htm
ingvarai wrote on 1/5/2009, 1:43 PM
> AVI files can contain interlaced video and they always could.

wow - thanks!
I learn something new by each post in this forum, it seems.

> I bought it earlier today and it works great for intermediate files, particularly for AVCHD.

Interesting!! I will definitely have a look at it


ingvarai wrote on 1/5/2009, 2:40 PM
John,
I found this link :-)
Neo Scene

I have downloaded the trial and get tons of error messages, nothing works at all - the same error messages that "David" is getting.

What OS do you use? I run Vista 64

David Newman wrote on 1/5/2009, 5:57 PM
Please fill a trouble ticket with Cineform.com/support, we are see some systems that aren't working with some AVCHD footage, and we hoping to clear that up over the next week. Most are finding it works without a hiccup, and we want to get everyone there.

David Newman
CTO, CineForm
ingvarai wrote on 1/6/2009, 2:33 AM
David,
please have a look here:
Cineform error

I have exactly the same issues as David B in this thread.
And I also would like a way to copy out the error messages. Since he has taken the efforts of retyping these errors, I will not do it. I have the same OS (Vista 64) and almost the same camera (Canon HF 10).

Whith this information, I hope you can solve the problem.
David Newman wrote on 1/6/2009, 11:10 AM
Posting here doesn't help. We have about 6-7 users reporting the same AVCHD conversion issue, not one have posted a troubled clip, so please file a trouble ticket at cineform.com/support and upload a sample. For the log window, select it, and use Alt+PrntScreen to copy it to you clipbroad -- no typing required.
David Newman wrote on 1/6/2009, 5:51 PM
Bug may already be fixed, please try a preview of Neo Scene 1.0.2

Temporary Link : http://miscdata.com/cineform/NeoScenev102b105-090106.zip

David Newman
CTO, CineForm

P.S. Please report back if you fixes your conversions.
ingvarai wrote on 1/7/2009, 3:28 AM
David,
it works!!
Great job! And thanks for being so communicative and responsive!

ingvarai