Intro completed w/ help of forum members...

jrazz wrote on 3/24/2006, 11:07 PM
Here is a link to the completed intro I just finished (12 hours of rendering 39MB mpg2)with help from a lot of people on this forum especially Dave "FrigidNDEditing". I started out using his VEG file that he posted a while back and tweaked it to do what I wanted it to do. Considering I have never done any 3D anything in Vegas before yesterday, I think I did pretty well. It helps to have people who are willing to put in time and input though :) JetDV, thanks for the script to lengthen clips (I wish there was one to stretch out the keyframes and keep them in proper relation to the other clips).
Anyways, thanks to all who helped and comments are welcome.

Edit: Here is a link to a smaller wmv file. It is the second one. (It is way past my bedtime; I should have thought of that Dave:)

j razz

Comments

farss wrote on 3/24/2006, 11:41 PM
It might be an idea to render a slightly smaller sized file, that's one BIG download.
WMV9 should give you the same quality without melting the web :)

Bob.
jrazz wrote on 3/24/2006, 11:47 PM
It might be an idea to render a slightly smaller sized file, that's one BIG download.


Yeah, I know the size is BIG, but it took 12 hours to render that out (2 pass variable) and it is going on a DVD with the video of her birthday party (she fell and broke her arm and cracked her hip and was in the hospital the day of her party). She had people from all over come for it- family, friends, etc. and it was a suprise as she didn't know anybody was coming up for it.
Anyways, I don't know how long it will take to render out a wmv file, but I will let one render tonight and post it.
Thanks for the response Bob.

j razz
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 3/25/2006, 12:06 AM
you don't have to go from the 3D. You can just re-render the .mpg - it won't make enough of a diff. for the purposes of viewing for preview.

BTW - Looks to me - like it turned out just GREAT!!

Dave
farss wrote on 3/25/2006, 12:51 AM
Yes,
it looks great. There does seem to be a problem, perhaps with the smoothness settings on the keyframes. At a couple of places instead of the image coming to a smooth slow down it seems to bounce.
Also the final flip to edge seems a bit odd.
All this might be because I'm playing it back on a SLOW machine.
Suggest you take a good break from it and then have another look.
Then again given the render time maybe not!

Bob.
apit34356 wrote on 3/25/2006, 1:06 AM
Very nice! Maybe Dave and you could post a zip file with sample pics and veg?
Jim H wrote on 3/25/2006, 1:21 AM
Pretty cool. Worth the render time. Kinda has that "Deadwood" intro look... or was the "Carnival?" One of those HBO shows.

Not sure what music you planned on using, but those quick starts and stops might go nice if they are timed to the music?

If you end up re-rendering, I might try to photoshop that big white blob off her lip on the one early photo.
jrazz wrote on 3/25/2006, 8:20 AM
You don't like the "big white blob"? I worked hard on getting that on there but I digress, I'll get rid of it :)
One thing I am going to attempt to change is when the horizon changes and the picture lie down horizontal and the "camera" descends through the picture. I don't like the way the picture above dissappears and the picture below appears. I am going to try and move the "camera" all the way to the bottom of the picture it descends through so the pictures will not just pop into place, but gradually be revealed and hidden during the descent.

As for the flip at the end... that will lead into the video portion of the DVD. I will post a copy of the VEG and pics shortly as a zip file.

j razz
jrazz wrote on 3/25/2006, 9:12 AM
Here is the zip file with the VEG+Pics in it.

j razz
Chienworks wrote on 3/25/2006, 9:25 AM
I also think that camera move needs to change. Not to sound too crude, but with the path you're taking now, it almost looks like you're trying to look up her dress. I really doubt you would want to even hint at anything like that.

Other than that, very cool! I can't imagine the amount of time you must have spent "hanging" all those pictures in 3D space.
jrazz wrote on 3/25/2006, 9:41 AM
Yeah, I am sure that it did take a lot of time "hanging" those pictures :) That is where I relied on what Dave already has done with his VEG. He had a 42? track VEG with pics already in the space. I just substituted my own and changed picture placement to my liking and "camera" movement to my liking. I am by no means a pro at 3D, but at least now I have a working knowledge and will attempt to incorporate this aspect of Vegas into more of my workflow (when I have multiple hours of free time to render out things!). The forum is great, but only b/c it is made up of people who are willing to share, teach, and give of their time to help others.

j razz
JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/25/2006, 10:17 AM
> I wish there was one to stretch out the keyframes and keep them in proper relation to the other clips)

There is! It’s called Ultimate S2. On the Editing Tools tab there is an option to Adjust Event Length (Relative Keyframes). This will do what you want. Unfortunately, it’s not free. But Ultimate S is a powerful tool you might want to have in your toolbox anyway. Download the 15-day free trial and check it out. At a minimum it will help you on this project because it’s fully functional for 15 days.

~jr
Grazie wrote on 3/25/2006, 10:26 AM
Razz! Excellent!! - You've given me a solution to a display I need to do. So obvious when you see it - well done.

Grazie
jrazz wrote on 3/25/2006, 10:35 AM
Wow- an inspiration to Grazie!?! I would like to see it when you finish if you can and don't mind.

John- I have been tossing around the idea of purchasing ultimate S and/or infinicam as I usually do 3-4 cam edits of weddings. I am sure I will purchase it/them in the very near future.

j razz
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 3/25/2006, 10:37 AM
unless you do more than 4 - you wouldn't really need infinity cam

anyway - I give it 2 thumbs up - I've gotten a good bit of use out of it.

Dave
jrazz wrote on 3/25/2006, 10:47 AM
What would do 3-4 cam edits? I don't use the free 2 cam script from Vasst b/c I almost always shoot with 3-4 cams. I thought it was either that or infinicam. There is a middle option?

j razz
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 3/25/2006, 10:51 AM
US2 - does 4 cams
DavidMcKnight wrote on 3/25/2006, 11:14 AM
J - another thumbs up for US2.

4 cam edit, and quick photomontages are what I use it most for. WELL worth the price, and it sounds like you can get some immediate use out of other components of the tool as well.

Haven't looked at your veg yet, but I saw the wmv file - very cool, and I didn't know you could do that with vegas either, at least not to that degree.
krhodes wrote on 3/26/2006, 2:00 PM
I think its great that vegas can do this - but why not use after effects - you could do it alot easier in ae

again - not knocking vegas -0 its my app of choice - its just not a 3d app

jrazz wrote on 3/26/2006, 2:23 PM
I wrestled with that same thing after seeing some of the things you can do in AE, but I attempted to learn AE and quite frankly, hated it. I'm probably not your normal guy when it comes to Adobe, but I never liked Photoshop, Illustrator, Pagemaker, Premier, AE... The only thing that I use from Adobe is PDF ( I had to use these programs on Macs while in school and just didn't like them at all- especially when I could go back to my dorm room and create something better and faster on my PC in a program I like).
Why don't I like them besides what I already mentioned? Well, mainly it has to do with the interface. It just doesn't feel right and Vegas does, it is intuitive. I use Micrografx (now taken over by Corel) Picture Publisher 10 Pro for all my picture fixing. I use Fireworks for all my additions to pictures, etc and I utilize Macromedia products quite often (I know, Adobe bought them out- I hope the interfaces do not change to Adobe interfaces).

As for it not being a 3D application, yeah, maybe it is not primarily a 3D application, but I did make this didn't I?

j razz
krhodes wrote on 3/26/2006, 3:32 PM
"As for it not being a 3D application, yeah, maybe it is not primarily a 3D application, but I did make this didn't I?"

Tis true....
jrazz wrote on 3/27/2006, 8:10 AM
I went back and placed some music with the wmv clip. I am going to render out the big one tonight and do a little tweaking. Curious as to what you think about the musical choice.

j razz
Hurtman wrote on 3/27/2006, 12:32 PM
I love this forum board. You guys always post the coolest stuff that your working on. Good job man.
Redio wrote on 3/27/2006, 2:15 PM
Waauu, thank you for the inspiration ;)

I will keep it and use it as inspiration for a video to my daughter.

Rune

PS. I agree about smootness of some of the keyframes, but the overall impression is - welldone.
bbq wiz wrote on 3/28/2006, 3:02 PM
I'm new at Vegas and have not done much with 3D. The pictures video was excellent. Could you say a few things about what has be considered when you doing this. Could instead of photos, a video be place in some, if not all of the pictures.

I'd just like to get a better understanding of the process involved in doing this.

Wiz