Is it worth shooting in HD when SD is the target?

Juergen2007 wrote on 12/16/2008, 2:12 PM
I had an SD camcorder but am looking at a replacement so am considering HD models.

Most of my video will end up being displayed on a SD plasma screen that won't be replaced for quite some time.

Is it worth capturing video using an HD camcorder, editing it publishing it in SD format (i.e. DVD) or just sticking with an SD camcorder with its smaller files and lower quality?

I use Movie Studio for all my editing.

Thanks

Comments

Terry Esslinger wrote on 12/16/2008, 2:25 PM
HD is arguably the wave of the future. The only question may be how fast that wave will get here. By recording in HD and downrezzing to SD for now, you can archive the footage, if it is important enough, and make an HD edit of it later when the wave has reached you.
Eugenia wrote on 12/16/2008, 3:03 PM
Yes, it makes sense to both shoot and edit in HD, and only export in SD. From both footage and effects point of view.
richard-amirault wrote on 12/16/2008, 5:27 PM
I won't comment on previous answers .. but realize that you may need, depending on what you have now, a newer, more powerful computer to edit HD
abelenky wrote on 12/16/2008, 5:56 PM
I think its worth shooting in HD (if you can afford it, both in dollar-cost of an HD camera and Computer-cost for the CPU cycles), for one simple reason.

You can over-shoot in HD (shooting more than your subject, having your subject relatively small in frame), then crop in the editor, and still not lose any resolution.

This gives you the ability to compose your shots after the fact, possibly smoothing out camera jerks or instability, and giving you more protection against your subject going out of frame, or even to the edge of the frame.
Markk655 wrote on 12/16/2008, 6:27 PM
ABSOLUTELY.

I currently do the exact same thing. I use an HDC-SD1 (Panny's first AVCHD camcorder). It was a hugestep over my old Canon miniDV. Playback is typically via DVD on an a plasma TV (EDTV). The difference in clarity even with downrezzing is ridiculous. The DV footage looks like it was shot years ago.

If you have the cash for the camera and the necessary computer power, go for it. I have no reservations.
Juergen2007 wrote on 12/16/2008, 7:23 PM
These replies are pretty convincing in favour of going down the HD path!

Realising that this is a Movie Studio forum, I don't want to turn it into a hardware review...
However, when I edit my video, will the quality vary that much depending on whether the camcorder uses MiniDV, flash or HDD to store the footage?

I suppose the main difference will be the compression that is used for the video. Storage space might be an issue to consider as well, especially if I am archiving it for conversion to HD (instead of SD for my current screen) sometime in the future.

Thanks again, J.
Ivan Lietaert wrote on 12/16/2008, 9:39 PM
Here is my favourite list:
1) canon hv30: best quality, highest price, on minidv
2) canon hf10: lower bitstream than hv30, 16GB built in
3) canon hf100: same specs as hf10, but only flashcard memory

Eugenia wrote on 12/16/2008, 10:36 PM
The HV30 is much cheaper than the AVCHD cameras now. It's sold for a mere $600 in the US these days. When I got my HV20 I paid over $1000.
ritsmer wrote on 12/17/2008, 1:26 AM
Definitely not SD because of the above reasons - you can, however, also go half the way buying a camera recording in 720p. This format gives very good results by not stressing your PC so much as full HD.

I have just been through the same thoughts and ended up with a SONY DSC-T500 - which I can really recommend.

I tested several cameras in the selection process - and it showed that 720p is many different things - ranging from that Vegas could not manage some of the videos to that some 720p recordings were way more blurred, jerky and unsharp than SD.
There are several T500 examples on Vimeo - some of them also showing a path where you can download raw 720p from the camera.
gogiants wrote on 12/17/2008, 3:07 PM
I am in the same camp as everyone else. I use an "HD" (720p) camera to get the best raw footage I can get (on my current budget, that is.) Then, I edit and create in 720p since the best way to share videos these days is on Vimeo, etc.

For cases where I do want to show on my actual TV (non-HD) I create a DVD with content that winds up being letterboxed. The quality is still good, though.

Finally, for any completed projects, I also make sure to save a high-def version of the completed render for the day when maybe I'm burning Blu-ray or some other format that supports higher resolution than SD.
HaveBlue wrote on 12/30/2008, 6:46 PM
Down converting HD to SD should gain color depth and minimize the 4:1:1 sampling that is part of the DV spec. Mini DV camcorders do not record the chroma for every pixel hence the footage is not as good as could be. With an HD camera you essentially have four times the pixels to choose color from when creating that SD image. Sort of, since HDV does subsampling too.