I've been using x64 XP Pro for 2 years now with no issues save trying to find printer drivers. I have it installed on both my AMD based desktop and Dell D620 laptop

I can capture no problem with any NLE that will install - I've installed PPro (1.5-CS3), Vegas (7&8), Edius and all have worked with out issues.

I also have an external Edirol UA-EX1 USB sound card. If you're using a firewire sound card, that could be your problem.

Cliff Etzel - Solo Video Journalist
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There is a response to your question below, but bear with me for a second.

I am new to this forum, but about to give up, I have asked several questions and never got but one response and that was a smart alecky one.

Well, some times getting smart alecky responses might mean that you are doing something you should not be doing. For example, you have posted this exact same question twice, minutes apart. That will make people think you are not too smart, and you might get smart alecky responses. Posting the same question in a forum only minutes apart is absolutely not appropriate.

Now to your question. If you get a Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) on anything in Windows, that means that Windows, not the application in question, had some serious problems. The fact that you are seeing it only when running one application may only mean that this particular application is doing something wholly appropriate, but Windows dies when it does due to a problem in Windows.

The most common cause of BSOD is a bad driver. Given that this crash happens during capture, I am willing to put at least $20 on the Firewire driver. Given that you are running the one Windows version with the least amount of stable drivers, this is not wholly unexpected. XP 64 is a great product, but it will crash with bad drivers, it doesn't have a lot of good drivers - honestly and Microsoft is not the one writing the drivers. Not strange, XP 64 has sold fewer copies than Frigidaire has sold Air Conditioning units on Greenland. If you are lucky there may be a newer driver for your Firewire out there. Check that first.

Now, I am going to extend my guess just a little, and I am going to say that if you check your hardware, you will find that your Firewire port is a VIA product. This I am less sure about, but it is still a reasonable guess. If it is, you are basically SOL. The VIA Firewire products are garbage, each and every one. I have never been able to make them work properly under any version of XP (32 and 64 bit). If it is VIA, disable it and go out and buy a new FW card, make sure it is not VIA.

Generally you may benefit from upgrading to Vista 64 if you are having hardware compatibility problems (which is really what you do) since Vista 64 has more, and better quality now, drivers.

Thanks for the help so far.
I posted twice because the first post disappeared, even a search for it had nothing and so when posted again got a screen that I didn't get with the first post. So for my part I just wanted and needed one post addressing the issue.
I do have a Prosonus firewire Firebox attached, the problem in turning it off is that then Vegas won't boot, but gets stuck on initiazing audio engine and so if left turned on, then to let vegas open and then closing it prior to capture makes no difference.
My computer does use a Via firewire card. I have searched newegg for a card that works with 64 bit, but are all Via chip set. I did have capture working when Vista 64 Premium was installed, but went to XP Pro 64 to use my Yamaha i88x external card.
The problems I am having are also true with XP home, I have a laptop and showing the same problems.
So I searched today for a non via firewire card without luck, I did find one with Texas instruments chipset, but doesn't work with Vista 64.
I am open to any suggestions for firewire cards and solutions for my situation

Well, VIA firewire controllers used to be awful, but might well have improved by now. TI controller chips were the way to go.

From my point of view, this info is about 5 years old so I don't really know if these controller chip preferences are still valid. I bought the cards "back when" and haven't had problems since (but MAN! did I have troubles with firewire cards and drives when I first bought them)

Firewire cards are fairly cheap and if you can find one with a TI chip and xp64 drivers then add it to your system. Run the camera on one card and the audio device on a different card. Even if you can't get a TI based card, you might still have good luck using two controllers and separating the two devices onto the two different controllers.

If I was buying gear right now I think I'd reserve firewire for just a camera or deck and nothing else. Use eSATA for external drives and USB for other stuff. That's the voodoo I'd do, anyway.

Rob Mack

Terje:
Just for your information air conditioning systems are used in the US Military installations in Greenland to freeze the concrete floors so the builidings will not melt the permafrost. The other method is too vent the concrete on each side of the building to "air temp" with huge floor vents to prevent the heat of the building from melting the permafrost. If the building is constructed on solid rock not to worry.
I use Vista 64 bit and have no problem with capturing.
JJK

Ok here are my experiences testing.
Given that I am using a fast dual core AMD cpu and 4 gigs of ram and xp pro 64bit
and firewire sound card (Prosounus FP10)

When using an SD tape, Vegas does recognize the Canon Hv20, but doesn't allow capture controls to be active.

When using a HDV tape recorded in cine mode and 24p, I get blue screen of death when trying to open capture in Vegas.

Setting camera to DV output from HDV/DV auto output makes no difference

In windows movie maker camcorder is not recognized

I have tried capturing in Windows XP home,
no recognition of camcorder with HDV tape
does recognize SD tape, but has massive drop outs during capture which is the same with Sony Vegas on xp home, captures, but massive drop outs

All of this is very confusing, it does seem to change response when Prosonus is switched on and off, but the end result still no capture of video.

Obviously the problem is either in the camcorder or using firewire in xp64 with the sound card, but the Xp laptop I have still will not capture in either SD or HDV

I don't know where to turn, I tried my camera store, but there service dept hasn't a clue. I will try Canon, but the camcorder is out of warranty

Hope someone has some ideas for me to try, thanks for the help so far.
I have eliminated cables as being the problem because when you change tapes, there are times when it gets recognized (see above)

This may sound obvious - but have you tried capturing via HDVSplit???

I thought for sure I read someplace that HDVSplit will capture from Canon HV20/HV30's - but I could be mistaken.

Cliff Etzel - Solo Video Journalist
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In fact I did download HDV split thinking it could help, but it wouldn't work.
I found another HV20 today at a camera store and took a couple of tapes one SD and the other HDV with my laptop running XP home and tried to capture.
The capture with the SD tape failed, but they were busy and I only captured a couple of seconds of HDV, but the problem may be in the camera. It is weird because some combos of tape, computer and settings where vegas will not recognize sd, but will list the camera by name on HDV with the PC and 64bit it just gives me the bluescreen of death.
I am going to try my old SD camcorder and see if it will capture from it?
Yeh, HDVsplit does not work.

First off, I only use firewire cards based on TI chipsets - the major players like Adaptec use these chips in their cards and they work natively with X64 Xp Pro.

If you'e having issues on different machines running 64 bit XP Pro, then that tells me that other hardware is to blame. As much as people like the Canon cameras - I still see them as a company whose video products almost always seem to have issues - specifically when shooting in their 24f format. I've only used SONY cameras, and I've never had one NOT connect - one of the reasons why I went with SONY HC7's.

I would also try seeing if you get the same issues with a SONY brand camera - that way you'll know if it's the camera of the computer.

Cliff Etzel - Solo Video Journalist
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Cliff
My other camcorder is a Sony it is a trv dcr 17 and I paid about a grand for it, a very good single chipper, I am going to hook it up tomorrow and see what happens on both computers.
I have been looking for a TI chip firewire card incl adaptic and am looking for one that has an internal firewire connection so that I can hook up the firewire on the front of the enclosure

I also believe NEC chipsets are another optioon - check out this card on eBay. Reading the description, the internal port is shared with external port #1 - did you check to verify that on the card you currently have?

Cliff Etzel - Solo Video Journalist
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FWIW - Vegas capture and HDVSplit would not recognize my HV30 when connected to an older firewire card ( VIA ) .. The card worked fine with an older Sony and a Panasonic camcorder ..

I picked up this card at CircuitCity :

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/NexxTech-3-Port-PCI-Card-N3PFWPC/sem/rpsm/oid/150495/catOid/-18341/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

... and the HV30 works great now ..


Just curious -- what 64bit apps are you using with XP64 ?