I think the killer is - "how much access scripts have to the audio" - But, yes, what with the SoFo wave formats and other such manipulations going on within the audio packages from the SoFo ranch, it would be a no-brainer? - But,hey Farss, what do I know?

Still jealous . . . .

Grazie

Whoah it is amazing. I was shocked and jealous when i discovered the trapcode site. I remember posting about this awhile back:

http://www.sonicfoundry.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=192973

I got a response from SonicDennis that you could create some type of script that analyzes the wav file. Personally, im not very efficient with scripts because i havent taken the time to learn them. I emailed Peder Norrby about creating something that is standalone or that is integrated with Vegas. This is the response:

They do not work stand-alone, they are plug-ins for Adobe After Effects.

He seemed like a nice enough chap, hopefully he will change his mind in the future.

"I guess the real issue would be how much access scripts have to the audio."

None :-(

But you could write a separate analyzer for .wav-files and use that with Vegas scripting.

Good idea, but it may then become a bit cumbersome, my coding skills are not that great but I'd imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to write something that analysed a .wav file and from that produced an avi with matching level of luminance, you could bring that in and use the compositing to control effects etc.

All very impressive, but I've already got two tools that analyse audio in far more depth - one on each side of my head.

Why allow a machine to do what we can do much better?
If you listen to a sound track and hit M on any moment you regard as significant, you can use those markers as points to change shots, luminance, chrominance or any other parameter or effect, and you can ramp up and down or change suddenly - as creatively as you like, and more creatively than any pre-programmed machine.

Or am I missing the point here?

" Or am I missing the point here? " No, you aren't. BUT - there's always a but - when you think of the possibilities of making graphics jump and fly to a a very mixed bag of sounds - AND if you aint Mozart, like me - this could become a little complex.

Yes, I do use the M key often to get video work synch to beats. I've also realise that there is a lot more I could do with an audio >> video marker analyzer - yeah?

I don't believe in "must-haves" JUST because they're there. No! - Having an option to go "further" yes - why not? Or am I missing the point?

"All very impressive, . . " on reflection - did you mean this or are you being a tad ..... cynical?

Grazie

Not cynical Grazie - I think it's really clever when they come up with new ways of using one level of information in a project to connect to other functions, and yes I can see the attraction.

Its just me - I tend to shy away from too much "automation" - I like my projects to be "one offs" as far as possible (that's my excuse for not remembering how I did something).

Similarly I have Acid music and think its really clever - and bought it on principle to help Sofo when they seemed to be in trouble. I very rarely use it, though - I get a much bigger kick out of opening up Logic Audio and creating something original.

cheers mate
peter

Yeah - Got it!

I too, like to keep things "simple". If I can do a job with . . . a wooden stake, a pair of scissors or even glue and brown paper, I will! Simple is best. And yes, keeping a "format" out of the way, has always given me a way or map to creativity.

I've been involved in the arts & crafts all my working life. It's when working on a project with others or for myself, that starting off by clearing the table of all that came before, that the extraordinary appears. But - big but here - this is achievable mostly only possible because we have learnt the "craft". We have studied, hacked and applied skills learnt. These skills in themselves are formats, AND must not impinge on the creativity. That's the deal. That's the Nirvana, I suppose, we are all trying to achieve.

This thread has wandered away from my original posting - but there again I think not.

I tell you what, Peter, I'm presently hassling the age old issue of "timing" for the right feel for "cuts" and moving the story along. Sometimes I feel I get it on the money. Other times, it just aint there! This IS about skills and a "feel" for the video/movie/project. I realise there are rules - but where can I discuss this? WHere can I immerse myself in that professional lake of clarity [ ooohh.... how lyrical was that? ] ?

Yes, I do watch all types of work - critically. Yes, I think I'm getting the point. But the overall feel for a project is always ALWAYS in the forefront of my thoughts about my work. I suppose I'd be worried if I wasn't thinking this way - yeah? But there again if I wasn't aware, I wouldn't know anyway! Hah!

Peter, thanks for your re-feedback.

Big Cheers here too!

grazie

Wanna work on a very small project? Could do this BroadBand? . . . . .