JVC GR-HD 1--is DV dead?!

mbru65 wrote on 3/15/2003, 1:27 PM

Hi,

I know we are waiting on SoFo to report on the Panasonic DVX 100 24p. Now, just
as one is pondering what camera to get--moving up from one chip--JVC drop a HD
bomb on us. I really don't know what to consider. As I understand it, JVC will
introduce some kind of HD ready, Mpeg 2 software, to allow editing with this thing.
Does this mean that committing to this thing means throwing your current NLE out
the window? On one site I saw the words "DV is dead"! I know it is early days
yet, but in this business, things move so fast that, well, you all know.
How does anyone think Vegas would perform with the new JVC, or should I just
get a PDX 10 with 16:9 chips and wait till it all evolves? <M>

Comments

David_Kuznicki wrote on 3/15/2003, 2:10 PM
There are a lot of things to consider with this... although realize that I'm saving up for a PDX-10 right now, so I'm biased! It is a BEAUTIFUL camera for the price...

I, personally, would wait to see how this shakes out before committing myself. I realize that there is a lot to be gained by being on the bleeding edge, but there's a lot to be lost, too. People WILL jump on JVC's lead with 'consumer' HD. I, personally, think that consumer HD is what's going to drive the networks into high definition 24-7. Realize that virtually station right now is looking at digital multicasting, not HD, as the workable paradigm. They can sell more ad space that way...

(Sorry 'bout the unrelated rant there... I personally think that the broadcasters, my station included, have their heads in the sand!)

Anyway, to get to the point, I'd hold off. I'm curious what options will be available before I jump from the DV bandwagon-- storage, formats, etc. There are NO standards, period. Everyone has their own proprietary crap-- all of which has merit.
Until it all works and plays well together, I have to admit, I'm VERY hesitant to pull the trigger...

David.
stepfour wrote on 3/15/2003, 2:17 PM
I think that decision would vary by market. If I was in a market where HD is coming on fast, AND, I was doing a lot of work for a TV station that is likely to insist on Hi Def from me, more sooner than later, then I might try to future proof by getting the advanced stuff now. Ohterwise, I would get something that does 16:9 with decent resolution and wait for HD to get in more widespread use and let the prices drop some.

What do I need in order to make money now and will getting more than I need give me a moneymaking advantage in the very near future? That's the question I would ask myself. Whatever you decide, I hope it works out for you.

I smiled when I read, "DV is dead." Heck, DV is always dying.
wcoxe1 wrote on 3/15/2003, 3:57 PM
CD is dying, long live Blu-Ray. So what?

DV (Digital Video?) is dying, long live DV. It will STILL be digital. No reason to think you can't migrate your own stuff. Now, if you are buying Copy InFECTED stuff, you are scre...!
VIDEOGRAM wrote on 3/15/2003, 4:12 PM
I make a living producing local tv commercials here in Ottawa, Canada. The key for me is when will broadcasters change their 750 000$ transmitters to HD? And the key for them is when will the viewers mostly have HD sets in their livingroom? It all works with the demand.
DV is not dead. It will be there as long as the 4:3 format lives.
By the meen time, lets get ready to produce 16:9 format as the demand is bound to grow in time. By this time, there will be software updates, codec improuvements ...

Gilles
rextilleon wrote on 3/15/2003, 4:23 PM
The JVC is being touted throughout the world of forums by JVC---my understanding is that it is not ready for primetime--that the image quality lacks, that its difficult to edit, etc. This is a camera for the few who have HD tv's and want to see their kids birthday parties on them----forget this baby for any professional use----

As the other poster said, HD is a long way from being the norm---a function of economics and I would wager to say that at this point, in this economy, the networks and local affilities are moving even slower when it comes to the capital investment necessary to beam this stuff into our homes. Forget the consumer until the programming is common.
wcoxe1 wrote on 3/15/2003, 7:34 PM
HD or not to HD? Well, it isn't 1920 x 1080i, so I'm not going to run out any buy it, for sure. Nor the other model they are talking up, either.