Thanks Wolfbass, but that's not what I'm looking for: Imagine two events separated by an empty space. I was wondering if I could select the second event and press a key shortcut that would snap that second event to the end (last frame) of the first event. The result is a cut without space in between.
Also, thanks John, but Shift + Alt + Arrow makes a selection...or am I missing something?
Sounds like you want to delete the "space" between two events - yes? And that maybe you've got a load of events scattered on the T/L with gaps - yes? I don't know of any single key press to eradicate these spaces/gaps. However there is Auto Ripple. This will delete the Gaps between 2 adjacent Events and get them Butt up to each other. However you need to identify the Gap, isolate the Gap - I've used Markers and the like in the past - and Highlight the Gap and then Delete the Gap. . . . .. . BUT best of all is Excalibur's Gap Wizard. This is part of the Excalibur 3 which in turn IS part of the Vegas Tools Triad of Excalibur; Neon and Tsunami - DON'T Leave home without them!
, . . . but I suppose you COULD setup a K/B sequence and do something . . .Nah! Excalibur does it for me !. . It is dead easy . .
I'll even give you the link for Free, too! Please visit it - It WILL make a heap of difference to your Vegas Experience . .. get from under doing things that are HARD and use your creativity for things that are FUN!
Thanks Grazie! However it is not that I want to get rid of spaces, but rather, move events so they stick to each other one by one.
I usually use the trimmer and drag an event to the timeline. Then I fine tune using the numpad. Most of the times that leaves me a gap between two events and it will be great that I could strike a key and automatically move the trimmed event to the closest event in the timeline.
However it is not that I want to get rid of spaces, but rather, move events so they stick to each other one by one.
Umm... what you are describing *IS* getting rid of the spaces - by moving the events so they are next to each other. That is exactly what Grazie explained how to do using Gap Wizard which will remove all of the gaps at once by moving the events together (can be either cuts or dissolves) and auto ripple and simply deleting the gaps.
Thanks for all responses,
Rosebud, ctrl+alt arrow brings me to the first and last frames of each event, but it does not move an event to snap to the inmediately prior one.
Jetdv, the thing is that I'd like to be able to do it one by one as I go editing so I can see the cuts right away and decide if they are good enough to keep them. Otherwise if I remove all the empty spaces at once I will have to go to each one of them to see how they turned out.
I believe that this feature is not available in vegas, but I think that it would be of great help.
thanks again.
Brian, the point is to have a keyboard shortcut. I always edit as you say, with the Enable Snapping turned on and dragging with the mouse. But I think that having a key shortcut for doing that would be more efficient. What I wanted is to avoid dragging with the mouse, it would be nice being able to hit a key and voila!
Jetdv, using the ripple and post ripple edit will affect the whole track, I only want to move one event, not the rest of the events.
"Jetdv, using the ripple and post ripple edit will affect the whole track, I only want to move one event, not the rest of the events."RIGHT-ON!
Ok ... I think I know where this post is really going .. I/me all of us want more control over what we can do with this s/w - no problem with this . . honest . . .
My question to you is why would you NOT want to move the following events to come to towards the the moved clip as well? You must have a neat way of editing that you've found truly useful in doing this? For my money, if I was to remove a "gap" and then say another 3 gaps from say 4 separated events, I'd end up with a really BIG gap between the last "moved" event adn the NEXT unmoved event. Maybe you have a reason for this? I wouldn't know . .. Please share your approach .. I'm all ears - honest!
aspenv, if you come up with a better way of doing stuff using this method then maybe you should present this to Sony for consideration -IMHO they are always willing to listen to ways to improving their products - you could have a winner!
For my money NOT having events move towards what I'm editing wouldn't assist me though.
Hi Grazie, the reason is that I don't edit linearly. I like to work in several scenes in the timeline and then put them together. After all, Vegas does not work with sequences as Avid can. So, it is my way of working on different things at the same time. It works for me. In this scenario, if I use the ripple edit, all the effects, synced sound, etc might be at risk.
Also, for example, now that I'm editing a documentary, I have the interviews synced up at the very end of the timeline and I'm working in the same video track at the begining, editing the rest.
I know there are ways around, like grouping events to avoid going out of sync, but when you have many sound fx and audio tracks is easy to forget grouping one or the other, resulting in a mess. I could also have the different sequences in different video/audio tracks for each one of them...but I find less practical. Also, I'm aware that I could have several instances of vegas opened for each one of the sequences. I have tried it, and did not like it. I like to have all the clips, sequences, etc in the same project.
BTW, I'm using Vegas 4.0, I don't know if this has changed in 5.0
On the other hand, there are many other situations in which I find myself trimming on the timeline and that a ripple edit would not help me.
I would just like to have the option of hitting a key and automatically move the event right next to the prior one.
You kinda have all your ideas/events up on the t/l and you move them around - almost in a 3-d concept approach. You can then get a real "feel" for the whole project. And yes, doing it this way would present you with a mass of gaps . .
GO IT! GOT IT! GOT IT!
Sooooo.... having a method that you could kinda re"group" your ideas into a mass - say to the left of the t/l - then move on and start placing - 'cos that is what you are doing, placing - this "collage" is how you work . .THIS I LIKE! - I want this snap to last Event aspect in V6 NOW! ! ! ! !
I've got my Graphics Tablet ready and waiting to use on your approach. I like using the tablet to "move" clips about. I've often posted here about ways to make Vegas more intuitive . . Others have heard me write about the Tom Cruise movie "Minority Report", where Tom is seen to "move" bits of evidence around some kinda virtual screens: bit of video; bit of photo; bit of x-ray stuff; a bit of audio; some database stuff . .. and all the time he is in this trance like state, literally, pulling and pushing all the bits and pieces together . . . This one simple "click-delete-gap" thingy would add to this approach too [ I like your other post about filling in Gaps from the Trimmer, I've used this too ] I think this would assist in doing this to . .. nice post . . Strange! I didn't say strange . . I wanted to know why you were doing it . . now you've told me I too want this and to make this s/w sit up.
I haven't used Avid . .. I've come to this NLE activity thru some really dodgy & stodgy s/w and ended up with V6. But too have felt a want for a more "flexible" way of working. And yes I think I may have slipped back into "Oh that's how it HAS to be!" . . Whoooaaa, not happy with that .. Maybe I need to refresh myself on other ways . . hhhm . . . .
Q: When is an NLE not an NLE!? When it is has many process to make NLE "fit" into a t/l - which is Linear . . . maybe .. ? It is the thinking of the Editor which makes it Non linear . .. yes?
Anyways although a tad further out from your original post, but I feel even more valuable now .. thank you, aspenv, get a product request to Sony - NOW!
Hey Grazie, it was fun reading your post. I hadn't thought about the matrix way of editing, but actually I do believe that many people edit the way a puzzle is done, where you save key pieces that you find separated from the bulk until it's time for them to be included in the mix.
In my case, those key pieces rest on the timeline and are saved until it's time to snap them in the cut.
But definately, a more flexible way of working wouldn't hurt anyone, so...me too, I would like to see the "Snap to last Event" in coming versions of vegas.
What you're describing is A STORYBOARD! Lots of other NLEs have it (including --gasp-- Premiere!)
I don't want to reopen old wounds here, but a few of us were yammering about this idea on the forum a while back and got a lot of "huh???'s" back from Sony.
Just the ability to shuffle edit events around in the Media Pool would do the trick, I think. Some way to play selected events in sequence from the Media Pool would be nice, too. (Q: Is the Media Pool scriptable in V5? I don't remember....)
Dump your subclips into a Media Bin, go to Thumbnail View, scramble the thumbnails however you like, hit a toolbar button and see the results in the preview / external monitor. We're so close.....
BS! ! ! ! "Dump your subclips into a Media Bin, go to Thumbnail View, scramble the thumbnails however you like, hit a toolbar button and see the results in the preview / external monitor. We're so close..... "
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. . ps would I get to use my Graphics tablet too? Would I be able to Copy Paste from PSP8 too? I can Copy>Paste into PSP8 . .. . the other way around would be real neat too? - Just think of Copy > Paste BACK into Vegas, wthout the need to:
Save File>png/jpg/bmp>Search>Import Media>Dump on timeline . .. after doing this I'd have lost what I was up to in the first place ! ! !
I come to Vegas from an archaic system - Fast Video Machine. I still use it but not as much. The app was released about 13 years ago and editing was based on Film editing. The concept was that your source material came from several reels. So each reel was unique. Within each reel, you would make several subclips.Each subclip could be given comments,takes, scenes. These could then be sorted by scene, take,name etc. You would then create a rack (where cut-up film strips are hung). You can move clips from any reel in to this rack, arrange the clips in order required and then put it on time line to see how it works.
I use similar approach in Vegas.
I put each reel (say camera-1, camera-2) on individual track. Solo the track and cut these in to clips (sub clips?) with auto ripple on. I would then use another track as a rack. So a track would be called scene 1. Move clips from various 'reels' to this rack. Once a scen is complete, it is grouped and moved to master track.
I suppose, it is all about how individual brain perceives the scene before it is assembled on time line.
And when it is all done I use the script mentioned above to find gaps. There are always a few.
Sorry, this does not answer the original question.