As a long time Magix Samplitude (high end audio) user, as well as long time Vegas user, (mostly a musician who needs video from time to time), PC buff and Adobe Cloud subscriber, and now also Davinci Resolve "colorist" - I can say that this is a perfect marriage. (I have checked out various versions of Magix video offerings, and while they are interesting, they would not be "pro level" and this acquisition spells a "win" for them on that count. My opinion here is less well informed re: Magix Video offerings, so it deals more with Magix' audio and overall history and philosophy and those implications).
My take:
Just a Sonic foundry brought the straight forward audio mixer's mode of working on the timeline to video, ala Vegas and later Sony Vegas -
Samplitude and Sequoia have brought object based editing into the field of audio software, which basically allows any piece of audio that one would cut, say a single note, to become, like video event in Vegas, its own editable universe with its own mix, plugs, automation, sophisticated panning tools. Quite a bit similar to how Vegas treats an event, with its own efx selections, pan crop, time stretch, etc. ProTools is just now catching up to a practice that Magix has done from the beginning. Used to be Seq'd sofware. German, well engineered, built in high end efx, super clean audio engine. Loads of high end tools, Swiss army knife for audio.
There are quite frankly some ways of working in Samplitude that I would often wish for for Vegas, and those now may, indeed, come to be. We'll see.
Both (Sonic Foundry Vegas and Samp) are renowned for audio, but Samplitude/Sequoia is in its own league in some respects, every bit the program that ProTools is, with easier and more powerful editing. The Vienna Symphony series of VSTi Sampled Instruments, for example, was recorded and edited with Samp/Sequoia, Sequoia being the full package for broadcast (radio) and mastering, but essentially the same program, Quite a few mastering houses feature Sequoia. Sequoia is about $3000 to about $600 msr for Samplitude (though I've seen it much cheaper, special sales and what not).
Midi is really quite good with Samplitude, even a very decent Score editor.
With the ubiquity of ProTools, Samp/Sequoia seems to have settled for a role as a very fine boutique software, a little quirky but genius, very similar to Vegas' philosophy and relationship with their customer base; i.e., for those who realize its power, those customers are fine with the idea that you will be shuttling ideas, projects, files and EDLs between different programs to get the job done, sometimes, especially when dealing with clients' predetermined preferences and third party files. And, as well, you can very efficiently carry on with just your main software of choice and produce high end results, perhaps moreso with the (Samp) audio side of things than video for the present discussion.
Audio guru and Motown Hitsville engineer Bob Ohlsson shuttle projects between ProTools and his preferred Samplitude, for example, but only because PT is what you are dealing with in Pro Audio, no way around that. Same with video, and Vegas, of course, makes some accommodations for that reality, though that is always going to be an area for improvement.
One more (perhaps more controversial) take:
'Samplitude for Rent' was an optional way of obtaining that program way before these 'subscription series' everyone seems to hate.
To the haters:
I get it. I understand your distaste for that very idea. And there may be, if fact, no "subscription" pending. It could be an option if it ever does come up. But, if it does, here are some reasons you may want to 'rethink:'
1. People can get in cheaper, hence, more user base = better for the development budgets and their planning, Money and user base = good thing for all involved, this is not a one way street.
2. Software is developed with the mindset of that user base, not dangling new "bells
and whistles" out there to entice new "would be users," which usually have nothing to do with
productivity, i.e., the core of the software, the heavy lifting bread and butter stuff -it simply becomes the case (without subscriptions) of the marketing dept. exerting a lot of control over development. Bad use of resources and keeps base continually frustrated. Hence, all the bitching and moaning on forums such as this (maybe people really enjoy that!! got to keep that as a real possiblity!!).
3. I paid NO MORE money ($20/mo) than what other users paid if they upgraded with each new major release, (usually 200 bucks about every year) and I got the upgrade before the other users. In fact, I paid less, because I didn't pay the heavy 'entry fee' - i.e., orig. purchase price. ($600)
4. Boutique products need a firm expectation of income, and that means they can count on, and it helps the product be sustainable, and it helps YOU, the end user, as you don't have the product become the **** stepchild of a SONY.
5. So I see it as a WIN-WIN...end of story. (I of course, do understand that most here have bought and paid for SVP, and it wasn't exactly cheap, and my advocacy would certainly contain provisos taking that into account moving forward).
My take:
Just a Sonic foundry brought the straight forward audio mixer's mode of working on the timeline to video, ala Vegas and later Sony Vegas -
Samplitude and Sequoia have brought object based editing into the field of audio software, which basically allows any piece of audio that one would cut, say a single note, to become, like video event in Vegas, its own editable universe with its own mix, plugs, automation, sophisticated panning tools. Quite a bit similar to how Vegas treats an event, with its own efx selections, pan crop, time stretch, etc. ProTools is just now catching up to a practice that Magix has done from the beginning. Used to be Seq'd sofware. German, well engineered, built in high end efx, super clean audio engine. Loads of high end tools, Swiss army knife for audio.
There are quite frankly some ways of working in Samplitude that I would often wish for for Vegas, and those now may, indeed, come to be. We'll see.
Both (Sonic Foundry Vegas and Samp) are renowned for audio, but Samplitude/Sequoia is in its own league in some respects, every bit the program that ProTools is, with easier and more powerful editing. The Vienna Symphony series of VSTi Sampled Instruments, for example, was recorded and edited with Samp/Sequoia, Sequoia being the full package for broadcast (radio) and mastering, but essentially the same program, Quite a few mastering houses feature Sequoia. Sequoia is about $3000 to about $600 msr for Samplitude (though I've seen it much cheaper, special sales and what not).
Midi is really quite good with Samplitude, even a very decent Score editor.
With the ubiquity of ProTools, Samp/Sequoia seems to have settled for a role as a very fine boutique software, a little quirky but genius, very similar to Vegas' philosophy and relationship with their customer base; i.e., for those who realize its power, those customers are fine with the idea that you will be shuttling ideas, projects, files and EDLs between different programs to get the job done, sometimes, especially when dealing with clients' predetermined preferences and third party files. And, as well, you can very efficiently carry on with just your main software of choice and produce high end results, perhaps moreso with the (Samp) audio side of things than video for the present discussion.
Audio guru and Motown Hitsville engineer Bob Ohlsson shuttle projects between ProTools and his preferred Samplitude, for example, but only because PT is what you are dealing with in Pro Audio, no way around that. Same with video, and Vegas, of course, makes some accommodations for that reality, though that is always going to be an area for improvement.
One more (perhaps more controversial) take:
'Samplitude for Rent' was an optional way of obtaining that program way before these 'subscription series' everyone seems to hate.
To the haters:
I get it. I understand your distaste for that very idea. And there may be, if fact, no "subscription" pending. It could be an option if it ever does come up. But, if it does, here are some reasons you may want to 'rethink:'
1. People can get in cheaper, hence, more user base = better for the development budgets and their planning, Money and user base = good thing for all involved, this is not a one way street.
2. Software is developed with the mindset of that user base, not dangling new "bells
and whistles" out there to entice new "would be users," which usually have nothing to do with
productivity, i.e., the core of the software, the heavy lifting bread and butter stuff -it simply becomes the case (without subscriptions) of the marketing dept. exerting a lot of control over development. Bad use of resources and keeps base continually frustrated. Hence, all the bitching and moaning on forums such as this (maybe people really enjoy that!! got to keep that as a real possiblity!!).
3. I paid NO MORE money ($20/mo) than what other users paid if they upgraded with each new major release, (usually 200 bucks about every year) and I got the upgrade before the other users. In fact, I paid less, because I didn't pay the heavy 'entry fee' - i.e., orig. purchase price. ($600)
4. Boutique products need a firm expectation of income, and that means they can count on, and it helps the product be sustainable, and it helps YOU, the end user, as you don't have the product become the **** stepchild of a SONY.
5. So I see it as a WIN-WIN...end of story. (I of course, do understand that most here have bought and paid for SVP, and it wasn't exactly cheap, and my advocacy would certainly contain provisos taking that into account moving forward).