Look Before You Leap!

Joby wrote on 3/10/2003, 9:33 PM
I have always loved video right from the time I used a rented camera and two VCR's to edit the miles of boring tape into something a little better.
This was the original reason a computer came along, so editing could be done with no picture loss. Unfortunately the first editing software was not good (one guess), after a long time only half a movie was done.
For Christmas I was given a gift of VideoFactory 2 which, once I had sort of learned how to use it, I completed the second half of the movie with a whoop of joy, joined the two together and 'saved' it.
Now the movies had to be 'rendered.'
This takes a lot of hard-drive space, and my 8 minute movie needed 5 gigabytes. Problem was I only had 4 gigabytes left. Ah-ha I thought, I'll have to get rid of all the junk that has been building up on my computer since I got it.
Carefully I deleted useless files and folders but a gigabyte is a lot of files and folders. Like a bolt from the blue it struck me. Video files take up a lot of hard-drive, my movie had been 'saved' in VF 2, I'll simply delete all the files in the old editor, after all the original files were safe in My Documents or so I thought!

I knew something was wrong when I went back to render my movie in VF 2. What was that thing there that said portions of the video could not be found - would I like to continue anyway?
I am now a sadder and wiser man who now realizes that because a copy of a video file exists in one home, deleting it from it's original snuggy abode kills it stone dead and not having Windows XP or any back up....................please cover your ears...

Joby

Comments

Stiffler wrote on 3/11/2003, 2:14 AM
Hay, Joby...

Welcome to the forum!

Sorry that you are having trouble. It is frustrating at first. I should know, as I, and a bunch of people here started with VideoWave like you did. (aka...the dark side)! I've been in you shoes before...You will get things figured out in the end.

It sounds like you lost some footage that you already captured? Do you still have the original tape?

(I'm wondering if I should hit the 'Post Message' or not...It can't hurt, except that I might get flammed....or, should I just wait for someone else to answer....ok, here goes....)

Good luck,

Jon

Grazie wrote on 3/11/2003, 2:55 AM
Stiffy - No worries matey. I'm from the school of a problem aired etc etc. Rather than the [ really sorry for this! ] "The Stiff Upper Lip" brigade.

Get it out . . Get it up here and see what happens. Here, I've been criticised for sometimes being less than serious and proffering the "apropriate" gravitas to an issue - not being serious enough - yeah? With me it is truly WYSIWYG.

Joby - bummer! Take yer "lumps" and move on. It's the only way. Film more footage - get it home - capture it - start throwing it about in VF.

Hey let's see a small clip of anything you've done on the Chienworks site - yeah? I'll be watching.

Good to see you here!

Grazie
Stiffler wrote on 3/11/2003, 3:35 AM
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Bear wrote on 3/11/2003, 8:30 AM
Have you dumped your recycle bin since you deleated the files. If not you should be able ot go and open it and click on the files you want to restore and restore them. This procedure I cursed at first but then it did save me several times.

Joby wrote on 3/11/2003, 3:45 PM
I was very efficient, cleaned out the recycle bin. Thanks for the sympathy all of you, but I learned a lesson.
It's strange but have you ever had that feeling you shouldn't do something just before you do it!!!!
Joby
Chienworks wrote on 3/11/2003, 7:33 PM
I usually have that feeling about 17.34 times every day. :(
MyST wrote on 3/12/2003, 6:40 AM
"...have you ever had that feeling you shouldn't do something just before you do it!!!!"

Yu meann lik typw thiss replt witt mittennz onn?

M
JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/12/2003, 6:46 AM
You could try one of the many undelete programs that will attempt to recover the deleted file if you haven’t overwritten it with other disk activity. There are lots of them at www.dowload.com .

~jr
Grazie wrote on 3/12/2003, 10:11 AM
Ahem - JR - Will using the pc to access www.download riun the deleted/undelete file option? - Just a thought . . .

Grazie
Joby wrote on 3/12/2003, 3:26 PM
JR, what am I looking for in download. com that looks for deleted files?
I 're-did' the first half of the 'movie' and, thinking I had enough space pre-rendered it. I had previously tried to make a VCD but VF 2 wouldn't let it work????
The long and short of it was I used up my 20 GB HD, only a few thousand bytes left. A computer friend is getting me a 120 GB HD and installing it. I'm not sure whether to keep that drive just for video? He's also going to show me XP, I am using 98 SE at the moment.
Any opinions out there?
Joby
Chienworks wrote on 3/12/2003, 4:05 PM
Joby, my suggestion is to keep that 20GB drive as C: for the operating system and software. Install the new 120GB as drive D: and use that for storing video files. You'll see lots of performance gains this way.

If you go with the XP installation, copy everything from the C: drive to a directory on the new D: drive, then format the C: drive and do an installation from scratch rather than trying to upgrade. Reinstall all software you want to use on the C: drive (this is a good opportunity to not bother installing stuff you don't want anymore), and then copy important data files from D: back to C:.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/12/2003, 7:59 PM
Grazie has a good point. You should probability download a utility to a drive other than the one you need to recover from so you don’t risk reusing (and writing over) the area you’re trying to recover. I just did a search for the word “undelete” on download.com and got a bunch of hits. Some cost money to register and others are freeware. Since you’ve already started working on the project again it doesn’t matter but now would be a good time to download a few undelete utilities and try them out so you have it for next time.

I agree with Chienworks, use the 20GB drive as C: for the operating system and software and keep new 120GB as drive D: and use that for storing video files. You may only need 60GB for video and use the other 60GB for programs also. (because 20GB for programs doesn’t go far these days). The point is, keep one drive for video only that you can reformat between projects.

~jr