Lost file in Print to tape

BobMoyer wrote on 3/1/2002, 3:32 PM
I have a completed project (41 minutes long) made up of several avi's, stills, transitions. I selected print to tape and then sat as it 'prerendered' the project. It took about an hour and I watched as the "files rendered" counted at the bottom of the screen ( 1 of 67, 2 of 67, etc.)

As soon as it got to 66 of 67 it immediately went to the printing to tape function and I just assumed that the last file was small. Well, the sound track to one of the avi files did not render nor print to tape. It is an avi file of stills with sound added. It has always played fine in both VV3' timeline and as an individual avi file. Does anyone have any clue as to what could have happened? Should I take another hour and 're-render' the whole project? The project that had successfully printed to tape was perfect except for this one problem.

Thanks,
Bob

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SonyEPM wrote on 3/1/2002, 3:54 PM
To get around the temporary nature of the prerenders, you might try rendering the entire project to a single DV .avi. If all is good, you can print that one file. If not, you can fix the small problem area, without rerendering everything again.

If you find out what is causing this odd problem (missing codec? corrupt file??), please let us know.
BobMoyer wrote on 3/1/2002, 7:49 PM
Just to be sure I understand you...I should render the entire project to a NTSC DV avi file. Then load that as a new project onto the timeline and work with it there? Is there a size comparasion between the two procedures or will either one need about the same amount of hard drive space? Sorry to be so dense, but I am trying to learn and at my age...well, we won't go there!

Bob
Caruso wrote on 3/2/2002, 7:30 AM
Bob:
You could place the DV file that Sonic is talking about on the timeline and "work with it there," but, if I read you correctly, all you want to do is print it successfully to tape, yes?

If so, render as suggested by Sonic, then, skip the timeline, going to Vidcap30 instead. On the right portion of the screen, click on the file folder and navigate through your dirctories to where your newly rendnered file resides, pull it into the box to cue it for printing to tape, then click print to device. That should do it, and will alleviate your having to print from the timeline (although, if everything is working correctly, either method should do).

The good part about rendering first is that, once you have a fully rendered DV file, and if your audio is in tact in that file, you should be able to print it to tape without the snafu which is the subject of your post.

I'm thinking that you may also discover some other reason for your problem in the process, but that's only conjecture on my part.

Good luck.

Caruso
BobMoyer wrote on 3/2/2002, 1:18 PM
SonicEPM,
The wav file in question was originally 3 different clips in MP3 format. I loaded them into SoundForge edited/cut/pasted and saved them in a windows .wav format. I then dubbed it onto the clip. This clip (one of many in the project) follows a .mov clip that came with your CD software as clips we could use (non professional). If it makes any difference, the .mov file has no sound. My clip is about my grandson's birthday and as the .mov clip ends the birthday clip begins and the sound says "They say its your birthday..." and stops when it should continue into several renditions of Happy Birthday.

I just finished deleting the sound track in the troubled clip. I re-edited the MP3 files again in SoundForge and added them to a totally new audio track. It plays great from the timeline. I then spent another hour rendering the whole project and 'print to tape' only to have the same problem at the very same spot.

Caruso & SonicEPM,

I took the above version of the project and rendered it to a separate NTSC avi file and then selected to print to tape via the capture program. The VERY SAME thing happened. If I play the .avi file created by the render, the sound plays fine. What should I try next?

ALSO: As another dumb question. When I rendered the timeline to the NTSC avi file, it was so large that it saved it as xxxx.avi, xxxx01.avi, xxxx02.avi. My question is when I selected to print to tape through the VidCap program, did I have to drag all of these files into the window or JUST the first one?

I appreciate your help.

Bob
BobMoyer wrote on 3/3/2002, 8:44 AM
Perhaps I should also mention that I am using VV3 on this project. I have downloaded the update (3a) but I wanted to be sure that this project was secure before I fooled around with any patches. Please help.

Bob

BobMoyer wrote on 3/3/2002, 4:24 PM
In an attempt to remedy my problem, I have tried several things. Among them, I have totally replaced the previous audio track that would not render and replaced it with another .wav file. I have rendered & printed to tape with the same problem (the sound for this clip does not transfer to tape). I noticed that when rendering, the counter at the bottom of the page (rendering file 1 of 67, etc) when it gets to file # 66 of 67 it actually renders a .W64 file instead of an .avi file. I believe that is where the problem lies. How do I get past this?? I thought that maybe the actual length of the audio clip was too long, so I even cut it in half and tried to render again and still got a .W64 file. I also realized today that when I was rendering the original project (first posting on this thread), it also was rendering a .W64 file at the end.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Bob
HPV wrote on 3/3/2002, 4:48 PM
(rendering file 1 of 67, etc) when it gets to file # 66 of 67 it actually renders a .W64 file instead of an .avi file
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In print from timeline, it will produce a single W64 file for the project. Rendering to a file doesn't do this, AFAIK.
You might have a funky audio setting in properties that is throwing off this W64 render. Or something in that time line region.
You might try cutting and pasting the whole project to a new project in a second instance of Vegas.

Craig H.
deef wrote on 3/3/2002, 7:43 PM
You only have to drag the first file into Video Capture, of the multi-file render, since they're automatically "chained" together.
BobMoyer wrote on 3/5/2002, 11:50 AM
I am pleased to let you know that I managed to correct 'my' problem. It appears that the problem was with the .avi clip itself. As I mentioned before, I had stripped away the original sound file and replaced it with a separate audio track in an attempt to fix it. Nothing I tried seemed to work. I then deleted the remaining video portion of the clip and inserted a new clip and all is working great. It now prints to tape perfectly. Thanks for the tips.

Bob