It seems to me that the Create Subclips from the TL in V6 is a rather redundant feature. Why would you want to creat a subclip that is the same as the clip. You can just use copy, paste or drop the original clip in a new location.
The create cubclip function in trimmer is much more useful (IMO). You highlight a section of the clip, create subclip and you have and edited version of that clip not a full copy of the same clip. In actuality yuou don't have another media you just have instructions on where to start and stop in the existing media.

could you please point me to "create subclip" anywhere in this program? I cannot find this command ANYWHERE in the trimmer. Where is this feature on SVMS 8.0c?

I don't think Movie Studio ever had the subclip feature -- I think only the full Vegas Pro versions have that feature. Did you have the "full" version of Vegas 6, rather than Vegas Movie Studio?

Tim L

That could be I have always worked with the full version. Don't know what features are missing from Studio

I have both VMSP8.0 and full Vegas 7.0.

Only the full versions have subclips.
I also can not remember that VMS ever had subclips.
It seems reasonable that a cheaper version of a program has lesser features.

However working with subclips is a question of getting a copy of something onto the timeline - and this is perfectly possible in VMS by using copy and paste.
What you copy and paste is an exact copy of the status the clip has at the time of the copy.

There are at least two advantages to using subclips: making something loopable, and making something "freeze" at the end (i.e. non-looping).

For example, you have a 30 second video clip, and you want to take a 5-second section of the audio, and stretch it out to a 1 minute looping "background" audio track. You can do this by making a subclip from the 5-second section, then dragging that (just the audio) to the timeline and stretching it out to 30 seconds. You can't do this directly with the original clip, because stretching it out just adds back in more of the original clip.

The second case is where you have a 20 second clip and you want to use 5 seconds from the middle of it, and have the video freeze at the end for another 5 seconds. With subclips, you can select the 5 seconds you want and make it a subclip, drag it to the timeline, right-click and uncheck Switches > Loop, then drag the end out 5 seconds more.

There are fairly easy VMS workarounds in both cases. Easiest is to simply mark the video or audio you want and render out a new file to use as your "subclip". The only disadvantage is the time involved, and the extra disk space.

For the "freeze frame" you can simply make an event from the section you want, then go to the last frame and save a .png file of the frame you want to freeze, then drag that to the timeline.

Tim L

Maybe not exacty the same effect as rendering out to a new file - but easier and very similiar: split the middle 5 secs into a separate part with just 2 x s - and then draw the right side of this separate part to the right holding down CTRL.

For the frozen pic just Save Snapshot to File (remember to set preview properties to Best and Full first).

Here's how I use Subclips, on Sony VMS 8.0d (Build 139) Platinum

1.) I open a piece of video in the Trimmer.
2.) I mark a region by setting an In-point and an Out-point.
3.) I make it a region by hitting the "R" key, or the Insert/Region menu.
5.) I right-click on the Green Region indicator, and select "Create Subclip".

Subclips are useful for extracting the good-content from a longer piece of mostly junk-footage.

I find it useful to make the subclip a bit longer, on both the front and back, than the good-footage. I do the final, precise trimming on the timeline, but the subclip provides a good starting point.

Here's how I use Subclips, on Sony VMS 8.0d (Build 139) Platinum

Hmmm... interesting. I don't have VMS anymore (moved from VMS 6 to Vegas Pro 7), but I was under the impression that VMS didn't have subclips. That could be a very useful find to people... Good catch.

Tim L

Subclips are useful for extracting the good-content from a longer piece of mostly junk-footage.

Help me out here.... why is creating a subclip better than just splitting the video at the beginning and end of the "good" footage then deleting fore and aft "junk" in the timeline?

ADDED: Just tried this.... create loop region, right click video (arrow positioned on video), choose Copy, position scrubber to new point, Paste. Voila, only the portion of video inside loop region is copied.

However, I do see drb's point, it would be nice to have the new video (subclip) added to the Media Bin. It could then be used in other projects, not just the project you're working on.

I just upgraded to VMS9 (PPP), and found that VMS9 doesn't have subclips anymore.

This is a big disappointment for me, as I used them frequently.

-abelenky