Making a master copy, audio question, DSR11

CRFTony wrote on 3/24/2005, 4:32 PM

Hi all,

I'm in the process of making some master copies of a film, one for my records and one for our distributor. Our distributor has requested that the master be delivered on DVCam with dialogue mixed to Audio Channels 1&2 M&E mixed to channels 3&4. I'm considering ordering a DSR11 to do this myself. If I do, I was wondering if I can do the audio per their request in Vegas or if I need a different program.

I was also considering just exporting everything to MiniDV and shipping the tapes off to someone else to make the masters since it would be less expensive. Can I export 4 channels of audio via Vegas(I use a Canon XL1, btw).

Any help/advice is GREATLY appreciated. I've been pulling my hair out here! =)

Many thanks,

Tony

Comments

farss wrote on 3/24/2005, 4:57 PM

You could do this but I think you'd need to feed your audio into the analogue inputs of the DSR-11 and do a 2 pass recording. Most likely a nightmare, come to think of it I don't know if the DSR-11 will restripe audio anyway.
On top of that 4 tracks of audio on DVCAM is not a good thing, you're stuck with 12/32K, hardly good quality to be had down that path.
DigiBetcam is made for just this, 4 tracks of 24/48K audio.
What I'd do is PTT TWO DVCAM tapes. One with vision and stereo mix. The other with matching TC with just black for vision and M&E for audio. Send them to a post house that isn't brain dead and get them to dub the combined thing to DB or BetaSP. If it's for serious sale they'll also most likely need CC which also isn't supported by DVCAM that I know of.
Alternatively you could just give them them the M&E tracks on audio CD or if it's too long as a wav file on a DVD-ROM.
Bob.

[edit]. Look at a DSR-45, it has 4 balanced audio inputs, don't know how you get 4 channels of audio down 1394 so again you'll have to get your audio back into analogue to do it.

CRFTony wrote on 3/24/2005, 5:31 PM

Thanks for the advice! They want DVCam for the foreign outlets so I have to get at least one copy printed to DVCam. If I just mix 2 channels at 16/48 for better quality, how can I do this via Vegas? Just move the dialogue all the way left and m&e all the way right?

I'm pretty clueless when it comes to audio so forgive me if that's a really stupid question.

Thanks again!

Tony

filmy wrote on 3/24/2005, 5:41 PM

>>> Just move the dialogue all the way left and m&e all the way right?<<<

DVCam issues aside -

Depends on the final mix. If your mono than this would work fine. We used to back up mixes to DAT and I would send it out exactly that way. However for a stero mix that won't work.

But here is a cheat - if you have a sound card that outputs seperate channels for 5.1 than you could do this:

1/2 = stereo comp mix
3/4 = Stereo M&E
5/6 = Dialog (Mono or stereo)

Now you just need to record this out to a multi track...DA-88 or ADAT would work. So really you are doing a surround mix sans the surround. Cheeky, but doable.