Max file size allowed on dvd-r

cossie_power wrote on 9/10/2003, 7:24 AM
Hi all,

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I have a quick question regarding dvd storage.

A few days ago i was trying to burn a dvd after 6 hours of preparing it first, however, i was getting error's when i attempted to burn. I then reduced the bitrate and ensured that the dvd was only 87% full and everything worked fine. Therefore, I take it you cant actually burn 4.7gb of information, does anyone know what the limit is?

Many thanks

Bobby

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cossie_power wrote on 9/10/2003, 9:44 AM
BillyBoy i dont think that link is right?

Cheers

Bobby
kameronj wrote on 9/10/2003, 11:27 AM
Your question is missing some important information - but I'll try and muddle through it until Billy gets the link information updated.

I can only assume that you mean you are trying to burn a DVD using Architect. But what is the file size of the video you are trying to burn (or the combined video)...what is the format? Is it already in MPEG2 format - or does DVDA have to render it?

If it has to render it , what format is is currently?

Then, you have to concern yourself with other aspects of what is going on the disc (menu's, etc).

You can burn 4.7 gig of information on a disc...but, you may run into problems (unless you optimize) if you are trying to burn a 4.7 gig MPEG1 video that DVDA has to rerender - and you have a lot of menue items and such.

Namee'n?
BillyBoy wrote on 9/10/2003, 9:54 PM
Yikes... bad link...

It was one of my more long winded replies. Boils down to this:

While you can put 4,700,000,000 BYTES of data on a blank DVD disc, the labeling is deceiving because while they all say 4.7 GB capacity, it really means you can just put 4.3 GB of data on it.

Why? Well duh, 4,700,000,00 bytes = 4.3 GB.

Confused?

Simpler put, they cheat on the labeling. The disk doesn't hold 4.7GB, it holds 4,700,000,000 bytes, or 4. 3 GB which is what the label should say, but rarely does. You see there is 1,024 bytes for evey K (kilobyte) or 1,000 which is where the difference comes from.
cossie_power wrote on 9/11/2003, 4:55 AM
Billyboy thanks alot mate, it makes total sense now. So i guess aslong as I use around 4gb of the disk I should be SAFE :)

Kameronj - sorry mate about missing the important info, but basically I use Vegas to capture and edit my dv footage.One and a half hours is around 20gb in avi format, once i have edited the footage i render into avi format again and drop it into DVD-A and create all my menu's etc. And then let DVD-A prepare and burn my dvd into PAL.

I dont bother rendering into M-peg2 and just allow DVD-A to do my rendering for me.

Do u think I should do the above in another method or is that the most efficient method?

Thanks

Bobby Singh
PDB wrote on 9/11/2003, 5:58 AM
Bobby,

Another thing you might check is the size of media as set in DVDA: I seem to remember that for some strange reason the default is set to 3,95 GB, so you have to change that to 4,7gb. You can see/change it in DVDA at Options/preferences/burning where you will see a scrollable box with the two settings..

Just a thought,

Regards
Paul.
cossie_power wrote on 9/11/2003, 7:27 AM
Nice one Paul, however Im thinking if 4gb is max that i can burn to then maybe i should leave it at 3.95gb. That way i can aim for 100%, without worrying about space available and weather or not it will burn.

What do you think?

Bobby
BillyBoy wrote on 9/11/2003, 8:54 AM
I tend to make a lot of personal DVD's that have a number of indivdual videos on them. I set DVD-A to reflect the full 4.7 capacity, then simply watch the value in the lower right bottom corner as you're in the menu building stage. I get up to 4.6 GM shown there and haven't had DVD-A recompress any video...yet.
johnmeyer wrote on 9/11/2003, 1:00 PM
I think there have also been posts about DVD-A not always providing the correct estimates in the Optimize dialog box for how much space will be needed. Also, if you render outside of DVD-A, you have to allow additional space for the menus and audio that DVD-A creates for navigation.
BillyBoy wrote on 9/11/2003, 1:10 PM
At best its a rough estimiate. I usually let DVD-A convert the MPEG-2 audio stream. Doing that also distorts the actual number shown since the converted file should be a good deal smaller which happens after the menu creation stage.
jetdv wrote on 9/11/2003, 1:33 PM
The other day I had to write some video segments to a DVD to get it off the hard drive for space reasons. The burning software balked at any file over 2Gig. So, I made 2 - 2Gig files and burned them both to the DVD.