media bin

eigenvee wrote on 11/22/2003, 12:12 PM
There's a behavior in Vegas that I don't see why more people aren't complaining about. It's that scrolling up and down in the media bin always requires a slow redraw of the thumbnails. Wouldn't this making looking for things extremely annoying? Shouldn't the thumbnails just stick in memory after the first draw, once and for all, so you can just scroll up and down and quickly find things? How could something so basic be neglected? Isn't looking around in the media bin something one would do often? Wouldn't the annoyance become readily apparent to anyone using the software after a vey short time?

What other basics does this software neglect?

This seems like a really stupid blunder in elementary UI design followed by a lack of play testing on the developer's part. Is this not the case? Am I missing something??

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Grazie wrote on 11/22/2003, 1:03 PM
" . . . . that I don't see why more people aren't complaining about. " . . er, how many more people do you want? I'm of course assuming you've done a search hereabouts - yeah?

Try some of these to see where we're up to on this:-

Item 1

Item2

Item 3

Item 4

Item 5

Item 6

So. . . you aint alone . . . maybe get onto Sony Suggestion Box and make your wishes explicitly known there - yeah? . .

Good to see you here . .what do you think of the software anyway?

Regards,

Grazie
Grazie wrote on 11/22/2003, 1:12 PM
. . oh yes . . I put Media Bins into a search and got back 186 posts! Tells me something.

I recently "lost" 3 hours of "commenting" on a complex 150 clip 5 minute project. What did I use? You guessed it - Media Bins! I sent of the Veggie to Sony Techs . . they can see the problem but haven't yet come up with a solution - yeah?

. . Grazie
PeterWright wrote on 11/22/2003, 9:59 PM
The slow redraw is likely to be caused by the specs of your graphics card. This maybe is why more people aren't complaining.

Even on my old PIII 450, there is no redrawing happening as I scroll through. The icons simply scroll. This is with a Diamond Viper 770 card.

There is also the choice to show media pool entries as list format, which I do all the time - far more information in the same space.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/23/2003, 6:22 AM
I agree it could be your PC configuration. I don’t see this behavior. Once the icons in the media bin are drawn they stay that way and I can scroll up and down and flip to the transitions tab and back to the media pool tab and nothing gets redrawn.

~jr
planders wrote on 11/23/2003, 7:47 AM
Insufficient memory will also frequently lead to less important things like thumbnails being swapped to disk, which could cause this problem. How much memory do you have, and are you running a ton of background processes?
Randy Brown wrote on 11/29/2003, 10:08 AM
I have the same problem with a NVidia GForce4 MX 440, 3.06ghz P4 w/HT and 1GB DDR 400. I would be surprised if it has anything to do with the video card since virtually everyone here suggests V4 doesn't rely on it. This has never bothered me so much as today when doing a slideshow with 268 stills (details view is useless).
Randy
PeterWright wrote on 11/29/2003, 5:19 PM
(edited) apologies - I just tried pushing my system a little, and there's definitely a threshold past which this re-drawing becomes necessary.

Whether it's a function of RAM, graphics memory, or maybe a buffer or cache somewhere I don't know, but by the time I got near 50 graphics, it kept redrawing thumbnails as soon as they dipped out of the window and were brought back. Probably this number would vary depending on graphics size.

I hope there's a fix in the pipeline - must be very frustrating......