Media pool problem ....or is it a problem?

Randy Brown wrote on 10/24/2004, 9:46 AM
Okay guys, I (along with others) have been whining about media pool bugs. One of mine has been the incident where after dragging a clip on the timeline from a folder and then selecting another folder, the first folder stays highlighted (in blue) and a dotted box highlights the newly selected folder. As soon as anything else is done (like dragging a clip to the timeline from the newly selected folder) the newly selected folder loses the dotted box around it but the original folder is still highlighted in blue (so it's very hard to tell which folder I just dragged from).
Well I thought the blue highlighted folder was a random thing (bug) but it's not; you see I recently moved and set up my 2nd monitor on the right side of my primary monitor (it was on the left). Well today I FINALLY noticed that (as I was dragging the clip from the folder to the timeline) I now drag across all of the folders and V5 thinks (rightfully so) that I want to move the clip!!! Depending on how high or low I was as I moved from the media pool to the timeline would determine which folder was left highlighted. Okay so I'm an idiot and I guess I'll simply move the 2nd monitor to the left of the primary monitor so that I don't drag across any folders... but before I do, may I ask you people with your 2nd monitor on the right, how you deal with this...or does everyone just happen to have it on the right?
Thanks for your patience,
Randy

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Spot|DSE wrote on 10/24/2004, 10:49 AM
My second monitors are all on the right, but I've seen a few where they are on the left. Never heard this particular complaint though. On a similar note, it drives me nuts to pull an effect, transition, or anything else out of the tabbed views and have any tab I cross over go active. If I'm pulling from Explorer, I go bug-eyed when my Media Pool or Edit Details pop open because I dragged over top of them.
Randy Brown wrote on 10/24/2004, 12:06 PM
I Never heard this particular complaint though.
So don't you have to drag across the folders on the left of your pool Spot or is there a way to put the folders on the right of the pool that I don't know about?
TIA,
Randy
Grazie wrote on 10/24/2004, 12:17 PM
" . . it drives me nuts to pull an effect . . . .. and have any tab I cross over go active." . . oh yes . . All those "other" Wndows popping up really wrecks the leap we got with ALT+D options . .! " Oooh look! I can have the view I want - But what is this Batman? - Holy Confusion! - I got all the other stuff too!"

Sony please sort this one ! Must be easy - yeah?

Oh yeah - can I have Vegas Explorer have Thumbnails too! Windows has it, why not our Explorer? - Really silly!

Grazie
rmack350 wrote on 10/24/2004, 6:27 PM
I don't think this is a bug at all. If you drag a clip from the explorer to the media pool tab, the media pool opens up so you can drop the clip there.

Okay, it's not a bug but it's bad design.

In the default Vegas layout the media pool and all the other windows are at the bottom. That means the tabs would be at the bottom of the window as well and you wouldn't drag things over the tabs by accident.

But of course this is inflexible. You ought to be able to put the windows anywhere you want and never be annoyed by anything Vegas does (interface behaviorwise). Maybe there's a setting in the "prefs o' death" that controls how long Vegas waits before giving focus to a tab you're hovering over.

Personally, I guess I must be just dragging around the tabs. My timeline is at bottom and docking area is on top yet I've never noticed this.

On the original post, I just tried putting the vegas explorer on the right screen and dragging across the tree view. Yeah, it highlights the folders as you pass over them but then goes back to nothing being highlighted at all (in the tree view). So mine seems like it behaves differently which makes me think it's something to do with the way I have Windows set up-all classic view with no frills in XP.

Rob Mack
Randy Brown wrote on 10/24/2004, 7:39 PM
Hey Rob,
you said: On the original post, I just tried putting the vegas explorer on the right screen and dragging across the tree view. Yeah, it highlights the folders as you pass over them but then goes back to nothing being highlighted at all (in the tree view).
This is what I'm doing except with the media pool . It is only the media pool that acts like this, explorer acts the same as you describe above.
When using the media pool my highlight stays on and when I select another folder it stays there but puts a dotted lined box around the new folder I select. When I drag a clip from the new folder to the timeline, the dotted line box disappears so I have to make a note as to which folder I was in while I work on the timeline with that clip.
So mine seems like it behaves differently which makes me think it's something to do with the way I have Windows set up-all classic view with no frills in XP.
That's how I'm set up too Rob. Like I say, I guess I can always move everything around to where my 2nd monitor is on the left but now I'm thinking it must be a pref somewhere (or something) that could be changed so I guess I'll wait until tomorrow ( I do like it better this way) in case anyone else has a suggestion?
Thanks,
Randy

rmack350 wrote on 10/24/2004, 10:31 PM
No, I see it now. Yeah, the bin selection behavior looks like a bug to me. Wierd. I've certainly had projects with multiple bins yet never noticed that I couldn't hilight the bin when I select it. maybe it's because I keep the media pool in the docking area with the rest of the program.

(time passes..)

Okay, I've tried the pool on a second monitor as well as simply docked in the upper right hand corner of the Vegas window. Sometimes if you drag a media file across a bin other than it's own then the bin highlighting gets confused. If you then drag another file out and over it's own bin the highlighting seems to get back into sync.

Obviously it shouldn't work this way but it doesn't have anything to do with dual displays as far as I can tell. I can get the same bad behavior with everything docked onto one screen.

Dreameweaver 3 and 4 were even worse about this. If you dragged a file anywhere near another folder it was very likely to grab it away from you and put it into that folder. Their advice was to turn off all hardware accelleration for your display. What a stupid thing to suggest, as if anyone's computer setup was going to revolve around Dreamweaver.

In comparison, this little Vegas bug is pretty minor. I certainly never noticed it but then Dreamweaver must have trained me to never drag anything anywhere near a folder if I didn't want to put it there.

Have you posted a bug report to Sony yet? Include the stuff about the window tabs. Seems like all of this focus grabbing ought to have a half second delay on it.

Rob Mack
Randy Brown wrote on 10/25/2004, 7:03 AM
I guess I will report this and just go back to being a leftie again.
Thanks Rob,
Randy
SonyTSW wrote on 10/29/2004, 12:47 PM
Thanks for the info. Your information on how to reproduce this problem (drag over the left side of the media pool window) was particularly helpful and we can make this happen here. I have logged this in our bug database.