I saw a video at VAASST pitching a how-to on greensceening, and the guy on the video had a green cast on his hand edges.

This still is from a VASST training video on how to be a director/cameraman and conduct an interview. Note the interviewee's headtop is out of frame (cut off), and the lav mic is prominently displayed.



It looks no better than one of my Flip videos with H2 recorder, and I don't need the trailer full of gear.

That green fringe is a common problem when a shutter speed is too low for the action as far as I know. There are better keying tools than those built into vegas to be sure. Especially depending on the color sampling of the footage. Vegas doesn't do DV keying anywhere near as well as some of the other tools, so I'd say that it's not unheard of to have a green fringe on something moving or something with hair on it. But you don't have to take my word for it, go shoot someone with a 30p recording in DV and have them move their hands around, or make sure they're hairy :P.

Dave

(edit - Director cameraman is not a DVD on teaching Greenscreen, it was a DVD done by Victor Milt on Directing and Camera work, not exactly a fair judge of the instruction quality of their DVD's)

If you want to judge them on their quality, you should go to their youtube or vimeo channel.

http://vimeo.com/vasst/videos

http://www.youtube.com/vassttraining

Dave

It's because the screen is too close, and it's glare.

Just a funny aside. I was watching one of the videos on youtube from VAAST and an pop up ad for Final Cut training comes up.

Dave T2

VASST does traing videos for software other than Vegas, FCP being one of them.

Yeah, I know but I don't think they are associated with lynda.com are they?

Dave T2

To be fair, the Vegas Pro 9 videos that come on the DVD stink too. That's why I never bought the Seminar Series.

The truth of the matter is that nobody is going to tell you their secrets that they accumulated over decades in a book for $29.

Earlier this year I painted my RV myself to save money. ($2200 vs. $600). I looked at a LOT of videos on the web that made it look easy.

The truth is, it's 90% sanding, patching, sanding, masking, and more sanding. The actual painting part is about 30 minutes. It was a LOT of work that I didn't expect.

Funny thing is, if someone asked me about painting a vehicle I wouldn't tell them all the fine points either. Let them learn the hard way like me. Same for video.

I'm learning the hard way, and when I get to the light at the end of the tunnel I can say "I did it my way" like Frank.

Is that Poetic Justice?

Someone puts a video ad, and it gets usurped.

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Yeah, I know but I don't think they are associated with lynda.com are they?

Bud Unwiser
So what you are saying is all GREAT people who help on another are idiots and fools for wanting to share what they have learned from all thier hard work.
Acording to you they should keep it all bottled up inside and never share thier knowledge with other's..

HOW can you spew such nonsense and ever expect anyone to take you seriously Man you should have never come back...

I'm saying there ain't no free lunch.

I've been coming here for 8 years and this lunch table daily groans under the weight and wealth of knowledge being served up 24/7. That, and the general good vibes always shown towards me.

You want some of that? If so, you're very welcome.

So, and again, pull up a chair, sit yourself down, pick up your knife and fork and have a piece of the offerings that are served-up daily.

Grazie

There is a BIG difference between a "free lunch" and not sharing what you have learned with your peers for the intent of making our community better. If I learn something new I am happy to share it with those who want or need to know.
Thank heavens that more people are not like you or we would still be riding around on square wheels or editing with a moviola ( not tht there is anything wrong with that) but my point is we all gain from things shown us by those who have already been there...

If you can't make a add to this community by sharing new things that you have learned, than do not make statements that try to make the rest of us not want to share.

HUM You remind me of someone else I know on this forum oh well freedom of speech I guess. I know there are no free lunches, but I have learned a ton here in the forum. A lot of what I learned came from the guys from VASST who come here and share their knowledge with those of us who do not know everything, and they have never charged a dime for their advice. So for you BudWzr don't use media Manager and to the guys at VASST and big huge thank you from me.
Daryl

Of course the selfish always think the generous are idiots. Most people here have had help getting up the learning curve, and they repay that by helping others coming up behind. Usually people need only a pointer in the right direction for them to get the rest of the solution by themselves, so don't need the advice to be complete or to come from the acknowledged expert. VASST teaching aids are just that: aids. You are judging the teacher by his fashion style, not by his knowledge. As in all learning environments, you have to do additional work for yourself.

Bud, burgers and chips are never free, but honest healthy home cooked meals are and always have been because it’s amongst friends.

Look at those Vasst clips again there is a lot of honest , healthy advice you are missing.

You people are reading too much into my comments.

When I started the thread I wasn't offered any advice or help other than to buy a video, and another comment that I was calling everyone an idiot.

John...... take it easy and remain calm :))

You people are reading too much into my comments.

I doubt that very much.

When I started the thread I wasn't offered any advice or help other than to buy a video,

Because Media Manager can be a complicated tool to learn and the video helps you to understand it.
I bought the Color Correction DVD from VASST and learned several things that I did not know, even after 30+ years in this business.

and another comment that I was calling everyone an idiot.

You're the one who changed the original topic to something totally unrelated.

Mike

1- you were offered advice in the form of TRAINING from a very reliable source of well liked and knowledge people, not to mention at least one of them is an award winning director/cameraman/producer/musician...

2- you came back with their stuff is crap, and then later you basicly said anyone who offers FREE advice and help are losers, and you would never give your experience of what you have learned to help someone you would just let them struggle.

READ your own post's and see why we are saying the things we are.

So how are we reading to much into your comments.. YOU said them...

Budwzr said : Funny thing is, if someone asked me about painting a vehicle I wouldn't tell them all the fine points either. Let them learn the hard way like me. Same for video.

Is that why you haven't taught us anything yet? C'mon, dud don't be like that, share at least 1 VEG with us, I dare you.

Bum wiser also said: I saw a video at VAASST pitching a how-to on greensceening, and the guy on the video had a green cast on his hand edges.... and

Well, I just happen to be watching the VASST DVD - Director / Cameraman Master the shoot. The DVD is very informative and offers practical techniques from working with talent to camera angles. Effective lighting and audio capturing are clearly demonstrated as well.

Bud, I think you should go ask Victor Milt if you can clean his shoes. Now go outside and paint your van again.