Microphone Help

toddgeer wrote on 1/12/2005, 7:36 PM
I believe this to be my first post to this forum, so first, "Hello!"

Using Vegas 5, and of course, like it mucho.

Question is this. I have a GL2 with no audio accessories. Looking for a microphone solution. Two or four wireless mics, some lapel some hand-held, then input into the camera's mic jack. There's only one jack. What the heck do I use to get them all in there? Bubble gum just ain't gonna work. I can't seem to find anything, but it's got to be there. Some kind of mixer? Splitter? Combiner? Not looking for top end stuff.

Okay, so two questions. What's better for interviewing, a shotgun mic on a pole above the speaker's head or lapel?

Okay, three. I see "OT" on some posts, have no clue what that means...

Thanks in advance
Todd

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Spot|DSE wrote on 1/12/2005, 7:49 PM
Welcome to the forum, Todd.
OT=Off Topic, or non-Vegas related things.

You can only manage 2 inputs to your GL2. If you need more, you'll need a mixer to feed the GL2. Look on the side of the cam, you'll find a small rubber cover over a red jack and a green plug. The red jack is for audio.
riredale wrote on 1/12/2005, 8:49 PM
For question 1, you could mix the mics down and then feed the results into the camcorder. Problem is that you're stuck with the mix you did during recording. Alternative method would be to record different mics separately, which is actually very easy to do with a couple of cheap MiniDisc units. That way you can do your mixing back within Vegas. I have two Sharp MD-MT15 recorders, which are small and sound great. I paid around $60 for them on eBay.

Regarding question 2, I would think that a mike overhead on a boom would be necessary if your subject is moving around (and you have an extra body to handle the mic). The lapel setup would be better if your subject is stationary.

Welcome to this forum. I've learned a lot here, and flames are few and far between.
farss wrote on 1/13/2005, 12:34 AM
Your best solution is wireless lapel mics but avoid the cheap ones. UHF mics are generally better, less risk of interference. Keeping boom mics and the operator out of shot can be tricky if people are moving around, no such problem with lapels.
The only problem I've had with them was this woman who kept scrathing right next to the mic.
Bob.
Jimmy_W wrote on 1/13/2005, 7:21 AM
hope this helps
Canon MA-300 Dual XLR Microphone Adapter & Holder for GL-2/XL-2 Camcorders.

works great!


jimmy

toddgeer wrote on 1/13/2005, 10:23 AM
Thanks, Jimmy. I assume one would use the adapter mounted on the camera, no cable into the Mic In jack because the MA-300 is hotshoe, then get wireless units where the receiver out to the camera is XLR. The XLR jacks/connectors I've seen on the wireless are smaller than the typical ~3/8" XLR jack, I assume an adapter is available?

Sorry this is so far off topic, the other boards I've been to don't seem to have much traffic. What might be a good forum for this topic?

So what would one do for multiple sources? Are we talking out of the scope of most event videography? I picture a 4-port mixer with a single feed into the camcorder or even recorded separately onto <something>.

Thanks

Jimmy_W wrote on 1/13/2005, 11:38 AM
sounds like your best option. The ma-300 has balanced inputs. Take your four channels, mix down to two.
as far as wireless units, adapters are available for xlr cables.
Posting this type of question on this forum is fine, lots of smart folks here.
Just list as off topic (OT) when these types of questions posted.
jimmy
Catwell wrote on 1/13/2005, 12:51 PM
I use the GL2 with the Canon adapter. I use a Mackie 1202 mixer with 4 mic inputs and mix down to two. The Mackie works very well because it has two sets of outputs. One of them is switchable between mic level and line level. Using the mic level output and turning on the mic attenuation on the GL2 gives exactly the right input levels for the camera. The Canon adapter only allows mic level inputs. You should also look at the Beachtek adapters. They have switching between line or mic level and gain controls. They are a more flexible solution and can be used with other cameras.
Jessariah67 wrote on 1/13/2005, 5:29 PM
For wireless lapels, I use the Sennheiser E100 series. They're a bit pricey (~$450/set) but are nice mics and have both dB and manula trim controls. The other nice thing about them is that they quit cold when the batteries are too low...as opposed to crackling away...