Why?
With all the bloatware thats included in Vista, and the fact hat theyre still having issues with it, id be loath to think that anyone of their right mind would jump ship...

IMO, they shoulda stuck to XP and worked on its problems before openign a new barrell of trouble..

XP has the potential but i guess its not abotu how usable an OS is, its about how much money it can make..

Here's the full list of Video that "works" with Vista per the RTM
* 1 Click DVD to DivX AVI
* Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0
* Adobe After Effects 7.0
* Adobe Premiere 6.5
* Pinnacle Studio 9.3
* AllPlayer
* Amadis iPod PSP 3GP MP4 AVI Video Converter
* BS Player 2.11.940
* ConvertXtoDVD
* Cyberlink PowerDVD 6
* Cyberlink PowerDVD 7
* DVD Shrink 3.2
* DVDMaestro_v2.9.2915a (needs to be run as administrator - works, but Cinemaster playback drivers fail)
* Fake Webcam
* FastStone Image Viewer 2.8
* GOM Media Player
* Intervideo WinDVD 8.0.6.101 (both Gold and Platinum versions)
* JetAudio 6
* Logitech QuickCam Fushion ver 10.4.0, build 1401
* Media Player Classic 6.4.9.0
* MPlayer[6]
* Nokia Multimedia Player v6.82 (in Nokia PC Suite pack)
* Real Player
* Sony Vegas 7.0d
* Techsmith Camtasia Studio v4.0.0 (Full Program)- "Grate funtionality"
* Tivo Desktop 2.3a (Cannot see Tivo devices on the network)
* TMPGEnc-2.59.47.155-Plus(must be run as the Administrator)
* Total Video Converter
* TVUPlayer 2.3.0 (32-bit)
* Ulead DVD Movie Factory x86 & x64
* VDownloader 0.3 (also, extension of this program for Firefox)
* VideoLAN
* VirtualDub
* VirtualDubMod
* VirtualDub MPEG
* VSO ConvertXToDVD v2.1.4 Build 162
* WinAVI Video Converter V. 7.7
* Xilisoft Video Converter 3.1
* Zoom Player 5.0

The list Jonathan posted was the "heavy problems" list in the RTM to wit:
* Adobe Premiere 7.0
* Pinnacle Studio 10

What a shock that Pinnacle 10 has heavy problems with Vista.
Being a consumer refugee from Pinnacle 8, I am soooooooooo glad I made the
leap and spent the money on Vegas. Well well worth it.
Looking forward to using Vegas on Vista soon.

The biggest reason for Vista is new equipment. Why upgrade to Vista on old equipment if it's working with no problems unless Vista has a big benefit in speed or stability..........if it an't broke..............Until very recently I had boxes running Win98 for functions that were working well.....I have one system running SCO Unix 5.0.2 on a Pentium Pro 200 for 10 years (24 by 7) and never had a thought to upgrade it as all worked well for what we needed (record uptime on the Unix was about 300 days)

Also, OpenGL was dropped in Vista. There go my 3D apps.

Might want to keep an eye on that. I see one poster over at opengl.org who says that open GL has been working just fine for him on his 8800GTX card.

Card vendors will probably have to supply drivers for openGL. And, yes, things look like they're handled differently so maybe Vista will break some openGL applications.

Rob Mack

Who says there is no support for OpenGL in the released version of Windows Vista? I looked on the "help" screen in Vista Ultimate and it says that OpenGL is fully supported as is Direct3D.

I know this wasn't true in the Beta1 version. Is that where you're basing your information from?

-Dan

I purchased, downloaded and installed Vista Ultimate last night and Vegas 7d seems to be fine with it. Same with Ultra.

Even my M-Audio FW 410, which has no formal driver support, is working fine. Contour Shuttle was recognized and configured automatically. Same with my Saitek keyboard.

I'm happy.

I wouldn't touch vista with a 10 ft boompole. Seems like M$ is forgetting that an OS exists to support applications software, not the other way around. When an OS becomes an end in itself...watchout. Vista has been reported to be a resource hungry monster. Think I'll wait awile before I spend my money on this fiasco. Vista's DRM software could very well disable much of the user's platform.

And this news...record labels now appear to be backpedaling on the use of DRM...how laffably ironic....

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/21/yourmoney/music.php

Just noticed that Sorenson Squeeze has a problem with Vista. Mine loads but nothing is available. Can't use it. Looks like a Windows Media Runtime issue.

It's all kind of old news that's stuck in people's minds. We're going to see lot's of broken things be blamed on these nonexistant problems.

Rob Mack

Just like w/ a new release of Vegas. Lots of chicken littles running around saying the sky is falling. Perfect releases, never, but usually better than all the negative comments imply the first week or two.

Huh? Please offer any decent and applicable advantage vista offers anyone here over XP/XP64 - I gotta hear this.

There's nothing "chicken little" about this f'n OS (asta la vista). Nearly every review and personal opinion/statement is pretty much dead on - the os is a bust in nearly every count. Not to mention it doesn't scratch the surface of justifying it's current price tag.
Doesn't apply to your vegas update analogies at all. Try again later.

M$ seem to have tried to do it right with lots of public betas, if it proves to be a dog one has to wonder how they could have gone about it better. Well OK, probably by ditching the current company structure and creating a new team under new management might have been the answer.
But as we've seen with Vegas beta testing is no trvial task.

No, it's just the rants on the forum that compare to the rants over new versions of Vegas.

Look, it's a really, really bad idea to rush out and buy Vista for an edit system if you rely on it for your income. On the other hand, if you are a hobbyist, love solving problems, and see eating glass as an interesting adventure then running vista right now, right away, is for you.

Think of Vista as a "labor opportunity". You can make all sorts of how-to videos. I think Camtasia already works with Vista (you can bet THEY were planning ahead)

Rob Mack

Being a Dell owner, there weren't any hardware issues that stopped me from moving to Vista.

Vista also offers a wealth of refined services which could directly improve Sony Vegas. For instance, just today Cakewalk introduced the new Sonar version 6.2 which uses Vista's Multimedia Class Scheduler Service, a service that helps media applications deliver glitch-free playback. Or how about the new Windows Search with extensible API? Or video hardware rendered GUI? Or even XP and Vista's DirectX powers that Vegas has yet to harness? Vista will bring a dozen of these multimedia features to the table. which will ultimately make Sony Vegas _that_ much better.

"Vista also offers a wealth of refined services"

That quote made my entire office laugh.

"That quote made my entire office laugh."

But was I wrong? Boy, there sure are a lot of Windows haters out there, well, that is, right up until someone mentions Linux, then, oh, all of the suddenly Bill is your friend again. Maybe by SP2.

I just read a review of Windoze Vista, written by a video editor. I can summarize his comments in 2 points:
1-Vista seems faster to boot and run most apps; and, has a lot of nice eye candy.
2-DirectSound (WDM)audio is gone....and DirectX audio playback tends to make concurrent video skip.

Now, that's enuff for me to stay away.

Software companies have had a very long, long time to prepare for Vista, longer than any other release. They have no excuse if they are not able to produce an update for Vista in very short order.

In fact any company that does not produce an update to support Vista in short order is probably one that is not spending enough on research and development, and is not looking after it's customers.

Like or not Vista is a reality, by the end of the year 10 of millions of machines will have Vista and only Vista, so the whinning and the slagging is completely meaningless.

It's Vista, It's Here, Deal With It.

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It's MY OPERATING SYSTEM, right or wrong and I love it, huh, BigRok?

Just reverted back to XP.

Vista had timeline playback issues in Vegas, Contour Shuttle engine wouldn't run, and Sorenson Squeeze was DOA. I spent a day trying everything, inluding disabling 90% of Vista's services and security settings, but timeline playback still sucked.

Oh, well. A Nice clean XP install is always refreshing....

You said "It's MY OPERATING SYSTEM, right or wrong and I love it, huh, BigRok?"

Until we all start moving enmasse to something else like Linux then yes that is the case. All the other Desktop OS's add up to a drop in the bucket. If a companies like Ulead, Adobe, Symantec etc can have their updates ready to go or scheduled for release soon, then why can't Sony, Avid etc. It's not like they didn't know about it, they had years to prepare, years.

But again it's the power of the market, the market says Windows is king, and like it or not Vista will be a big success simply because it will be installed on 10's of millions on new machines by year end even if no one else buys it.

At the local largest dealer for computer parts they were sold out of Vista in matter of hours, and are now waiting for more copies. Although that is not happening everywhere, people are buying it, and like me they are finding much to like about it.

However I will be keeping my Vegas and Avid tools on my XP Workstation until such time as they release supported Vista updates.

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