mixdown in Vegas Audio

drummerboybitme wrote on 1/12/2002, 3:12 PM
Trying to mix a project to WAV, I use the Render As option, and tell it to render the tracks to WAV. All works fine, except that I am routing my tracks through AUX busses for mixing tracks as a group (ie Bus A : drum kit, bus B : guitars, bus C : vocals). My problem is that the rendered file seems to come directly from the tracks, and not the busses. These busses have effects on them in order to keep down the amount of processor usage, so it's important that I be able to mixdown from those busses.

I assume that I am overlooking some mundane detail, perhaps just a box that needs to be checked in Preferences, but I can't find it. Any help?

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drummerboybitme wrote on 1/14/2002, 8:37 AM
still no luck...anybody?
stakeoutstudios wrote on 1/14/2002, 9:30 AM
Are you using Vegas 2 or 3? if it's three, make sure all your busses are routed to main mix, and are output through a single stereo soundcard output from main mix.

If it's version to. Check that you are not mixing to multiple outputs, as unless you have external harware to mix with, this would mess things up.

I mix through the busses all the time (sometimes upwards of 20 submix busses!) and when I render down the file.. everything is fine, all plugins are the in the mixdown wav.

Just go to

File-> render as.

If this doesn't help, give me a more detailed description of your setup, plugins and project file, and what's different from playback to the final mixdown. I'll try suss out what's going on.

hope this helps,

Jason
drummerboybitme wrote on 1/16/2002, 1:40 PM
Okay...it's Vegas 2.0, and I've got things set up relatively simply...17 tracks, grouped down to 3 busses : Drums, guitars, and vocals. To simplify things even further, I'm having the same problem without any effects on the buses. I am using a M-Audio Delta 1010 and a Delta 44 for my I/O, and all buses are routed to outs 1&2 (channels 1&2 on the 1010) When I render to WAV, it appears as though the levels I have set on the aux busses are bypassed, and I'm getting everything straight off of the track fader. For example, I have the "vocals" bus cranked down 10db, but on the rendered file, vocs are through the roof. In monitoring, everything seems fine, so I'm at a bit of a loss. I don't know if this is enough information for you, and I'm afraid that most of what I have written may be redundant, but if it sheds some light on the problem, let me know. Thanks!!!
Rockitglider wrote on 1/16/2002, 11:00 PM
Hello,

On the track faders in Vegas right click them and select Post or Pre depending on what you need.
This will allow you to get the track sound before or after the fader.

See ya, Rockit
stakeoutstudios wrote on 1/17/2002, 3:20 PM
seems odd though, as the vegas template should automatically be set to post-fader.
drummerboybitme wrote on 1/22/2002, 5:05 PM
Well, I siad the same thing to myself, only when I tried it, nothing happened. The search continues....
stakeoutstudios wrote on 1/24/2002, 7:37 AM
Vegas does seem to work properley for me... perhaps try uninstalling and re-installing Vegas completely...

Jason
drummerboybitme wrote on 1/29/2002, 12:12 PM
Just did...whole system crashed. Wonder if that wasn't part of the problem. In any case...once I'm all set up, I'll post if the problem is solved.
drummerboybitme wrote on 2/5/2002, 1:33 PM
Okee-dokee. Here it is a month later, and I've finally gotten this figured out. Little detail that I overlooked....if I click on the pan slider, I get a drop down for the Aux busses. (I'd never seen that before!) It is from here that I can set the send to pre or post fade. Much better...thanks for all your help, people!

As a side note...Vegas was not responsible for my system crash, nor was Windows XP. Somehow, I botched up my BIOS, and things degraded rapidly. Anybody still considering using XP with Vegas...I'm not having any problems with the setup.
jbrazier wrote on 2/7/2002, 11:41 AM
Just out of curiosity, what are the specs on your pc (Processor speed, RAM, HD space, etc.)? I've got VA 2.0 and the delta 1010 and sometimes I get pops and clicks that are very faint in my recordings...and I'm not sure if it's performance related. Just curious....
JoeD wrote on 2/12/2002, 5:02 PM
It could most likely be your version driver (delta 1010)

In win98 use - 4.1.22.27
Not multiclient but the best audio quality, as well as ability to control ASIO and MME buffers separately.

If XP use .26 and raise those buffers (I know - it blows...which is why I say all delta 1010 owners might find Win98 to be the better oS to get to work on)

JoeD
stakeoutstudios wrote on 2/26/2002, 7:47 PM
With my delta 1010, I've found myself using win98SE for tracking with the .27 drivers, and winXP for mixing with the new drivers. I tried tracking in WinXP, and all *seemed* great for a while, but I noticed sync drifting between tracks slightly over long a few minutes of recording. (I can just imagine what this must to to stereo imaging, phase etc, even over short periods of time!)

It got to the point where towards the end of a perfectly good drum take, it sounded the like the top and bottom snare mike were 'flamming', that far apart! At the beginning of the take, they sound perfectly together!

Good thing about XP though is that I seem to be able to push a good few more plugins (doesn't make sense to me, but I don't mind!), and it doesn't seem to crash nearly as often. oh, and Vegas looks downright *sexy* in win XP. more than I can say for the horrible green 'start' button. eurgh. Microsoft: 'where do you want to barf today?'

Jason
jbrazier wrote on 2/27/2002, 1:12 PM
I kicked up the delta 1010 settings to 512 from 384 and it looks like that made the difference. Recorded 8 track simu of drums last night and was very satisifed with the result.

Yeah, i had to install the silver/platinum gui for XP...