I'll bet the CarTalk guys could have!

I once heard them correctly diagnose the car problem after asking the color of the sweater of the passenger that the driver picked up that morning.

"This will push Sony to rethink what Canon and JVC is doing."

I seriously doubt it.

Not that one should pay much heed to video taken from monitors however look at the shots taken with the JVC camera of the Belagio fountain. Highlights totally blown out and bleeding, shadows lost completely.
Now compare that to the shot outside the Los Angeles Theatre at 00:17 in the following:



That was taken with available light. The DPs in the theatre when I saw it were stating around 20 stops variation in light between the neon lights and the levels on the women. I saw no noise, zero. The best film stock would have had a hard time capturing that scene. Sony's F65 may well be remembered as the digital camera that killed film.


Bob.

No... I'm talking about price. Yes very aware of the F65 camera for professionals.

I am looking at the sweet spot. That Canon 5D,7D, Nikon D7000 to the Sony EX 1 -3 and FS 100- F3. And rumors on the Canon 5D Mark iii.

The most consistent mention is March for an announcement. I think they’ll announce a 5D mark III type camera after the February 7, 2012 announcement of the Nikon D800. We’ve heard recently that the Nikon D800 would be announced with a 36mp sensor.

4K EOS Canon Camera???
The announced development of a 4K Canon EOS DSLR could make some specs that come out hard to decipher. I believe a high megapixel EOS body is coming. The question is whether it would be the 5D3 or the new 4K DSLR.

"I am looking at the sweet spot. That Canon 5D,7D, Nikon D7000 to the Sony EX 1 -3 and FS 100- F3"

You forgot the Canon C300 which is kind of overpriced for what it is.
I think Canon have hinted they'll do a better featured C300, don't know if it'll be 4K but going on the C300 pricing it'll be more expensive than the F3.

Bob.

Yes Canon C3000 and Panasonic AG-AF100. Well 16k...maybe even lower 14k?
In addition, Larry Thorpe formerly from Sony is with Canon.

http://nofilmschool.com/2012/01/canon-c300-street-price-16k-its/

D5on 01.21.12 @ 12:43AM

Shooting at 4k or 5k gives you flexibility in post you cant get with any lower resolution. Lets say you did a wide shot and later while editing you wished you would have gotten a closeup – not a problem because since the video is at 4k, you can crop a 1080p “closeup” clip with ZERO degredation in the video quality – THATS why 4k and 5k cameras have an advantage today… This also cuts down on production time and the amount of equipment needed on a shoot.. you can shoot a wide shot of a group and “zoom in” during post work to individuals again without degrading the video quality… there are many posibilities.

That is assuming that the image quality in the 1920x1080 section of the 4K frame is the same quality as the shot from a native 1920x1080 camera. That assumption is far from guaranteed.

I've got a 10K DSLR. I can resize shots from it to 420x280 for web posting and the look fantastic. I can crop down to 420x280 on a small detail without resizing, and it looks crappy. I would have gotten a better image from a webcam up close.

Even though you're not zooming in on the pixels in your example, you're still performing an optical zoom in post and relying on image data from a very tiny section of the sensor. The optics in the camera most likely were never intended to resolve that as well as an image that fills the sensor.

This video may answer all those questions about JVC crop and resizing. In addition, you can film in HD.

Bob.
[Sony's F65 may well be remembered as the digital camera that killed film.[/i]
Yes...And maybe this is the camera that changed 4K prices.

This video may answer all those questions about JVC crop and resizing. In addition ...you can film in HD.

JVC has released a short test clip of footage from this camera.
http://www.jvcpro.co.uk/jpe/en/global/product.3533.140.html
No "combiner" for the Windows platform yet so what I did was I download the file, load them onto a Vegas Pro 10 timeline (properties set to 3840 x 2160), separate track for each clip and use Track Motion to position them properly.
Getting it to play smoothly on my office machine (Dell Precision quad core with XP Pro SP3) was another matter :(

Mike

The download was password protected for me. Try to get a sample as building a quad-HD combiner into a CineForm file shouldn't be too hard.

David, I have no idea why it was password protected for you.
If you want them, I grabbed them and put it into my Dropbox folder.
Right-click save as on the following link.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20488019/4KTestfiles_short_Version.zip

Mike