Motion trail

Invisible wrote on 11/1/2002, 4:10 PM

Hi,
I'd like to make a still flying from point A (size 0,0) to point B(size 50,50) which displays half of its original size on the screen, and then flies off the screen(size 0,0). I'd like to have a motion trail when the image flies across the screen.

Does anyone know how this is accomplished? Which software, or plugins?

Please help me if you can. Thank you very much.

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kkolbo wrote on 11/1/2002, 4:48 PM

Pixelan's Effects Filter can do this within Vegas for you. This is not the spice filters but their FX filters for Vegas.

K

Invisible wrote on 11/2/2002, 6:27 PM

Hi,
This Pixelan Filter plugin can only be applied to the image itself, not to the whole picture (As an object). When I apply the filter, there is no trail to the picture, just the image being blur.
I'm trying to find a way to create a trail effect, which affects the whole picture frame. Is there any software to create that effect? Please help!!!

Thank you so much.

FadeToBlack wrote on 11/2/2002, 6:53 PM

Tyler.Durden wrote on 11/2/2002, 7:01 PM

You can sorta fake it in Vegas, but it's sortuva pain:

Duplicate your track with the move
Move it below the original, delay the move a touch and put a fade on it
Repeat process on new tracks repeatedly to make a number of tracks, each moving and fading slightly later than the last, each one behind the other.

Experiment for length and fade, etc.

HTH,, MPH

TorS wrote on 11/3/2002, 9:07 AM

It's not bad at all, what martyh suggests, even if it's not what invisible was asking for.
I've done a little test:

moving.wmv (470 kB)

I've put several objects (two bits of text, a solid colour image and a still - of the king of Norway)
I've made them move different paths and increase/decrease with track motion.
I've duplicated the tracks and delayed the movements slightly - but only once, and I've dragged down the level for the shadow tracks.
The result, as you will see, is not a trail but a shadow image following close and echoing the "action".
Like martyh said you could repeat the copies several times and fake a trail. I've not done that here, because everybody can see how it's possible and that it will take some work.
I agree that a trail would be nice. This is something else, and I think it too could be used for good things.

PS. I think you'll love the gong effect. It's a bonus.)

Tor

Tyler.Durden wrote on 11/3/2002, 9:18 AM

That's *great* Tor.

Gong-gag is a keeper.

MPH

TorS wrote on 11/3/2002, 11:58 AM

It is rather striking, isn't it. You could do that to someone's head. Only you'd get a more hollow sound.

Seriously, to the one in ten who hasn't figured it out yet: It's done with the Waves FX.
Start with zero everything. Repeat that (doubleclick on the keyframe line) where you want the gong to strike. Make sure you rightclick the point and select Linear. Add another point at the peak point and set the vertical and horizontal waves all the way to 32,000. Set the vertical and horizontal amplitude to 0,027 (more or less, depending on your taste and what kind of object you're hitting).
Add the last point where you want the FX to end and set waves to zero.
Add sound and hit it.

Tor

TorS wrote on 11/3/2002, 3:40 PM

On the topic of trailing:
When you create an object in the text generator you can use light rays as a (sort of) trail behind the movement. But with a still - what Invisible wanted to use - and track motion - you can't do that UNLESS you render it first and put the result in a track of its own.
I've made a crude attempt as a variation on the example in the previous post (actually the one before that):

moving2.wmv (445 kB)

You could fine-tune it a lot better than I've done, but look at the possibilities, they're amazing to my mind.
Still - we should have had a kind of multi-tap echo on a video track. I can't see that it should be such a complicated thing to program - but I wouldn't know for sure.

Tor

Invisible wrote on 11/5/2002, 11:49 AM

Hi everybody,

Thank you to all of you, KKolbo, GG, Gartyh, and TorS for helping me out in this problem.

As GG suggested, Boris RED works perfectly and easily to create a trail, although it costs $1600.00 to have a full version. I wish I could post a movie which I did in Boris RED for all to see what I really have in mind, but in the Demo version, it wouldn't let me export the movie.

I wish some other programs can make it more affordable. VV3 is a very good program. I hope in the future Sonicfoundry will add this feature in their software.

Again thank you to all of you. I really appreciate your help.

DN

philfort wrote on 11/5/2002, 12:08 PM

You could probably use particleIllusion (http://www.wondertouch.com) to do this, by making your still image a "particle". It's $300 for the full version. (It's capable of some incredible effects, but suffers from a clumsy interface, and kind of buggy).

Invisible wrote on 11/6/2002, 11:14 PM

Thanks Philfort! P.I. is a wonderful program. I wish I knew it long before. It's incredible! The effects are nice!

Is there anyway I can make ParticleIllution to work with Vegas Video??

Thanks again,
D.N.

philfort wrote on 11/7/2002, 12:38 AM

I've just been rendering effects in PI, and exporting as an avi, or a series of stills (with alpha), and then importing that into VV (if you select the first still image in a numbered series in VV's Import Media dialog box, it will offer an option to import the whole sequence as a video clip).

If you need an effect to follow a distinct path on the video, then you probably want to import the video into PI to use as a background. PI seems to only be able to import avi's with certain codecs though, so it might take a while to find something that VV can generate, and PI can also import. PI isn't able to import the avi's that vegas captures from the camcorder (The DV codec I guess).