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mara-f wrote on 1/30/2021, 1:42 PM

Good day,
please help me can't load the file in the .mov container
I enclose an extract from madiainfo.
I tried to install quicktime and turn on the qt plugin. Unfortunately, even quicktime will not play the file.

 

Hlavní
Celý název a cesta                       : E:\2019-11-28 18_17_55.mov
Formát                                   : MPEG-4
Commercial name                          : HDV 1080i
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.00 (qt  )
Velikost souboru                         : 155 MiB
Duration                                 : 45 s 560 ms
Celkový BitRate                          : 28,5 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-01-01 17:08:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-01-01 17:08:53
Enkódoval                                : Apple QuickTime
com.apple.proapps.manufacturer           : Sony
com.apple.proapps.modelname              : HDV-VCR
com.apple.proapps.cameraID               : 0x80046010483b6c3
com.apple.proapps.cameraName             : Sony HDV-VCR
com.apple.proapps.clipID                 : 772F1192-4FA1-4A31-A13D-FD2E036D35C1
com.apple.proapps.ingestDate.description : 2020-01-01 18:08:07 +0100
com.apple.proapps.originalFormat         : HDV 1080i50
com.apple.proapps.mediaRate              : Unknown kind of value!
com.apple.proapps.timecodeFormat         : Non-Drop
com.apple.quicktime.creationdate         : 2019-11-28T18:17:55+0100
com.apple.quicktime.make                 : Apple
com.apple.quicktime.model                : MacPro3,1
com.apple.quicktime.software             : Mac OS X 10.11.6 (15G22010)

Video
ID                                       : 1
Formát                                   : MPEG Video
Commercial name                          : HDV 1080i
Format version                           : Version 2
Format profile                           : Main@High 1440
Format settings                          : BVOP
Format settings, BVOP                    : Ano
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=12
Format settings, picture structure       : Frame
Codec ID                                 : hdv3
Duration                                 : 45 s 560 ms
Source duration                          : 46 s 80 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 25,0 Mb/s
Šířka                                    : 1 440pixely
Clean aperture width                     : 1 416pixely
Výška                                    : 1 080pixely
Clean aperture height                    : 1 062pixely
Poměr stran                              : 16:9
Clean aperture display aspect ratio      : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25,000 FPS
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan type, store method                  : Interleaved fields
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.643
Stream size                              : 136 MiB (88%)
Source stream size                       : 137 MiB (89%)
Titul                                    : Core Media Video
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-01-01 17:08:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-01-01 17:08:53
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Formát                                   : PCM 
Codec ID                                 : fl32
Codec ID/Hint                            :  
Duration                                 : 45 s 560 ms
Source duration                          : 46 s 104 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 384 kb/s
Kanál(y)                                 : 2 kanály
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48,0 kHz
Stream size                              : 2,09 MiB (1%)
Source stream size                       : 2,11 MiB (1%)
Titul                                    : Core Media Audio
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-01-01 17:08:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-01-01 17:08:53

Různé
ID                                       : 3
Type                                     : Time code
Formát                                   : QuickTime TC
Duration                                 : 45 s 560 ms
Frame rate                               : 25,000 FPS
Time code of first frame                 : 00:02:14:02
Time code, striped                       : Ano
Titul                                    : Core Media Time Code
Default                                  : Ne
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-01-01 17:08:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-01-01 17:08:53

Comments

Marco. wrote on 1/30/2021, 2:04 PM

You'd need to additionally install the Quicktime MPEG-2 codec which only was available as commercial and paid codec in the past. Don't know if Qucktime Alternative would come around this.

mara-f wrote on 1/30/2021, 2:52 PM

You'd need to additionally install the Quicktime MPEG-2 codec which only was available as commercial and paid codec in the past. Don't know if Qucktime Alternative would come around this.

Quicktime Alternative - I've tried it without a result. :-(

rraud wrote on 1/30/2021, 4:48 PM

Would changing the extension to <.mpg> open it with Main Concept or other mpeg-2 codec?

JN- wrote on 1/30/2021, 7:13 PM

@mara-f There's a link in my signature to a small util for converting variable frame rate to CFR, you could also use it to convert your clip to MP4, just toggle the 'M' key to output MP4 and the audio key to output 384kb.

Make sure to set the FPS value to 25.

Last changed by JN- on 1/30/2021, 7:14 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

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VFR2CFR, Variable frame rate to Constant frame rate link to zip here.

Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

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mara-f wrote on 1/31/2021, 5:51 AM

Thank you for the advice. I thought I would do without conversion. They originally went to load the files for me. I have done a project where I used them and after about a week it suddenly stopped working. I am not aware of any change.

RogerS wrote on 1/31/2021, 6:14 AM

If something changed but you don't know what, reset Vegas? (hold control + shift and double-click to start up) Otherwise conversion sounds like a good idea.

JN- wrote on 1/31/2021, 7:12 AM

@mara-f I meant to add that the other util in my signature copies the video and only converts the audio.

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VFR2CFR, Variable frame rate to Constant frame rate link to zip here.

Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

---------------------------------------------

PC ... Corsair case, own build ...

CPU .. i9 9900K, iGpu UHD 630

Memory .. 32GB DDR4

Graphics card .. MSI RTX 2080 ti

Graphics driver .. latest studio

PSU .. Corsair 850i

Mboard .. Asus Z390 Code

 

Laptop… XMG

i9-11900k, iGpu n/a

Memory 64GB DDR4

Graphics card … Laptop RTX 3080

mara-f wrote on 1/31/2021, 9:20 AM

If something changed but you don't know what, reset Vegas? (hold control + shift and double-click to start up) Otherwise conversion sounds like a good idea.

I tried that. Without success.

RogerS wrote on 1/31/2021, 9:42 AM

If something changed but you don't know what, reset Vegas? (hold control + shift and double-click to start up) Otherwise conversion sounds like a good idea.

I tried that. Without success.


Perhaps the change that happened was outside Vegas, then. Feel free to make a short sample clip available if you would like us to test it. Otherwise you'll need to convert to a more common file format. JN- gives one way to do it.

mara-f wrote on 1/31/2021, 10:04 AM

Pokud se něco změnilo, ale nevíte co, resetovat Vegas? (podržte klávesu Control + Shift a dvojitým kliknutím spustíte) Jinak zní převod jako dobrý nápad.

Zkusil jsem to. Bez úspěchu.


Možná se tedy změní, která se stane, odehrála mimo Vegas. Pokud chcete, rozhodli její otestovali, neváhejte a dejte k dispozici krátký ukázkový klip. Jinak budete muset převést do běžnějšího formátu souboru. JN- dává jeden způsob, jak to udělat.

Well here is one for the test.

 

https://uloz.to/file/WjjkddzNPBV3/2020-05-01-15-57-03-mov

JN- wrote on 1/31/2021, 11:03 AM

@mara-f Ok, I downloaded the sample MOV clip. VP 17 and 18 won't load it, message is "unsupported format".

VP16 loads it, but the audio is N/A. I used the VFR2CFR util to convert it as previously described, i.e. output to .MP4, audio to 384kb, FPS=25, it then loaded and played aok in VP16, 17 & 18.

Note that this VFR2CFR util requires the "ffmpeg" utils, downloaded and added to the "Windows" PATH, instructions are in the help/readme.

Last changed by JN- on 1/31/2021, 11:10 AM, changed a total of 2 times.

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VFR2CFR, Variable frame rate to Constant frame rate link to zip here.

Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

---------------------------------------------

PC ... Corsair case, own build ...

CPU .. i9 9900K, iGpu UHD 630

Memory .. 32GB DDR4

Graphics card .. MSI RTX 2080 ti

Graphics driver .. latest studio

PSU .. Corsair 850i

Mboard .. Asus Z390 Code

 

Laptop… XMG

i9-11900k, iGpu n/a

Memory 64GB DDR4

Graphics card … Laptop RTX 3080

joelsonforte.br wrote on 1/31/2021, 12:01 PM

The problem occurs because the MPEG-2 devideo codec is associated with a PCM audio codec in a .MOV container  Vegas does not associate MPEG-2 video with PCM audio and is also not good at encoding .MOV files.  

I analysed your video and the simplest and quickest solution is to use XMedia Recod to rewrap the video stream and convert only the audio stream to .mp2 format in an MPEG-2 container.

XMedia Recod is free. Download link bellow:

https://www.xmedia-recode.de/download.php

mara-f wrote on 1/31/2021, 12:18 PM

I don't even need audio. I only use video.