Hello All,
I have two towers, both HP PCs, one runs System 7 Ultimate, the other runs XP Pro SP3. Both run Vegas Pro 9e, and both have had their QuickTime installations rolled back to 7.6.x to overcome .MOV files not playing on the timeline which apparently is a QuickTime 7.7x glitch.
Both machines are pretty bare-bones, most of the clips I edit are between 5 and 30 minutes with no special effects.
The System 7 Ultimate machine:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50Ghz
32-bit
SP1
3GB RAM
The XP Pro machine:
Intel Core 2 QUAD CPU 2.4Ghz
32-but
SP3
3GB RAM
My main camera is an EX-1, I shoot files at 1080 30p, and at the advice of another cameraman with more experience than I, I convert my files to .MXF and use those for editing.
I have edited hundreds of clips on the XP Pro machine using the .MXF files, I have rendered many clips in 720 and 1080 on this machine without an issue.
Then I get a gig with a customer who supplies me files to edit, some of which are .MOV files created on a Canon 5D. When I go to render a clip (they require .mp4 @2Mbps) the render stops at about 4% and gives me the insufficient memory error. So I take the hard drive and plug it into the System 7 Ultimate machine and it renders the files just fine.
I thought it may have been a file length issue, the last 2 clips for this client were in the 20-minute range, so when I did a 7-minute trailer, I figured that should render...but no.
And again, it's JUST the .MOV files, the XP Pro machine does fine with native EX-1 files and the converted .MXF files.
Here is the info on the .MOV files they give me:
General
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
File size : 353 MiB
Duration : 49s 216ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 60.2 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-15 18:56:14
com.apple.quicktime.make : Canon
com.apple.quicktime.model : Canon EOS 5D Mark III
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : N=1
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 49s 216ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 58.6 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.179
Stream size : 344 MiB (97%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Audio
ID : 2
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : sowt
Duration : 49s 216ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 9.01 MiB (3%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Other
ID : 3
Type : Time code
Format : QuickTime TC
Duration : 49s 216ms
Time code of first frame : 17:55:13:14
Time code settings : Striped
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Bit rate mode : CBR
I just want to know WHY my XP Pro machine can't deal with these .MOV files. They PLAY fine in Vegas Pro 9e, but the machine just gags on them during rendering. Again, my System 7 machine has no issue with these .MOV files.
And yes, I realize I should upgrade these machines or buy new ones altogether. And I'll do that when the budget allows, which will come at a later date.
Many thanks in advance for your help!
Cheers,
wordman
I have two towers, both HP PCs, one runs System 7 Ultimate, the other runs XP Pro SP3. Both run Vegas Pro 9e, and both have had their QuickTime installations rolled back to 7.6.x to overcome .MOV files not playing on the timeline which apparently is a QuickTime 7.7x glitch.
Both machines are pretty bare-bones, most of the clips I edit are between 5 and 30 minutes with no special effects.
The System 7 Ultimate machine:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50Ghz
32-bit
SP1
3GB RAM
The XP Pro machine:
Intel Core 2 QUAD CPU 2.4Ghz
32-but
SP3
3GB RAM
My main camera is an EX-1, I shoot files at 1080 30p, and at the advice of another cameraman with more experience than I, I convert my files to .MXF and use those for editing.
I have edited hundreds of clips on the XP Pro machine using the .MXF files, I have rendered many clips in 720 and 1080 on this machine without an issue.
Then I get a gig with a customer who supplies me files to edit, some of which are .MOV files created on a Canon 5D. When I go to render a clip (they require .mp4 @2Mbps) the render stops at about 4% and gives me the insufficient memory error. So I take the hard drive and plug it into the System 7 Ultimate machine and it renders the files just fine.
I thought it may have been a file length issue, the last 2 clips for this client were in the 20-minute range, so when I did a 7-minute trailer, I figured that should render...but no.
And again, it's JUST the .MOV files, the XP Pro machine does fine with native EX-1 files and the converted .MXF files.
Here is the info on the .MOV files they give me:
General
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
File size : 353 MiB
Duration : 49s 216ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 60.2 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-15 18:56:14
com.apple.quicktime.make : Canon
com.apple.quicktime.model : Canon EOS 5D Mark III
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : N=1
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 49s 216ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 58.6 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.179
Stream size : 344 MiB (97%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Audio
ID : 2
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : sowt
Duration : 49s 216ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 9.01 MiB (3%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Other
ID : 3
Type : Time code
Format : QuickTime TC
Duration : 49s 216ms
Time code of first frame : 17:55:13:14
Time code settings : Striped
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-12 15:11:24
Bit rate mode : CBR
I just want to know WHY my XP Pro machine can't deal with these .MOV files. They PLAY fine in Vegas Pro 9e, but the machine just gags on them during rendering. Again, my System 7 machine has no issue with these .MOV files.
And yes, I realize I should upgrade these machines or buy new ones altogether. And I'll do that when the budget allows, which will come at a later date.
Many thanks in advance for your help!
Cheers,
wordman