Moving DVCPro50 From FCP to VV

DavidNJ wrote on 11/14/2003, 10:30 PM
Ok...24PA DVCPro50 was shot on an SDX900.

Captured on a Mac with FCP4. Extra frames automatically removed. It becomes an MooV file on the Mac.

Stored on a Firewire Drive, it is moved to a PC using TransMac. It is now an MOV file.

The Matrox DigiVCap.dll codec is installed an recognized by AVIcodec.

Now these pieces don't seem to work together. Matrox DVCPro50 shows for AVI rendering. But how do I read a DVCPro50 Quicktime movie?

Do I need to render a different format on the Mac first? If so, what?

Thanks,

David

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TheHappyFriar wrote on 11/14/2003, 11:43 PM
I don't know how FCP works, but try rendering it as a plain DV AVI file. Or a DV MOV file. The Matrox DVCPro50 codec is designed by them for use with their cards, and the codec is so that other people can read/render them.

I'd try rendering 30s snippets then transfering those to Vegas. Easier then rendering the whole file! :)
DavidNJ wrote on 11/14/2003, 11:51 PM
But goal is to leave it in DVCPro50 format. Rendering DV looses the color (4:2:2) and detail (3.3:1 compression) information.
RBartlett wrote on 11/15/2003, 3:46 AM
The digisuite standalone codecs from Matrox will let you read DVCPro50 in a directshow/AVI file. Not sure of the best gateway from the Mac.

The fact that the files are recognised at the PC end is progress. Conversion to MJPEG will/can preserve 4:2:2, but might well change the compression ratio, add artifacts or where it doesn't do either of these, may swell the footage to a point where you might use an uncompressed MOV format.

Try some samples of variations on the export. I thought Vegas MOV support was quite good, maybe you need the exact matching quicktime codec installed on the PC side to give DVCPro50 import. I don't have any suggestions, other than to google "Windows DVCPro50 MOV quicktime codec".

Trying to convert it to the right AVI type on the Mac could be harder and maybe more costly to attempt.
DavidNJ wrote on 11/15/2003, 9:21 AM
Tried many searches.

Just tried Quicktime Pro...still no luck. I guess it only supports DVCPro, not DVCPro50.

Going back to the Mac now...will see if I can create a DVCPro50 AVI file from FCP.
SonyEPM wrote on 11/15/2003, 3:29 PM
If you install QT + QT the authoring components, Vegas should be able to read and write DVCPro 50 QT files (no need to convert to .avi).

DavidNJ wrote on 11/15/2003, 7:11 PM
Well I have the pro version...and it can't open the DVCPro50 file.

Are there separate authoring components that I need? If so, where do I get them?

I am transferring the AVI file now...but it took nearly 45 minutes to convert 17 minutes on the Mac.

DavidNJ wrote on 11/15/2003, 8:11 PM
I must have done something wrong...neither Vegas nor WM player nor QT could read my AVI DVCPro50 file...all said it was corrupt. With the QT file they could open it and plan the sound.
DavidNJ wrote on 11/18/2003, 10:48 PM
By recompressing in FCP4 to DV25 I was able to see the data in VV. I need to go back to FCP4 and find out how not to loose the original timecode.

But I have DV25 not DVCPro 50. And it took 2 hours to recompress 30 minutes. This is not a solution.

Sony...do you have a way to do this or is VV going to be limited to sub $10k camcorders?
SonyEPM wrote on 11/19/2003, 8:46 AM
Hmmm- so please confirm: your DVCPRO50 QT file, captured with FCP, does not open in Vegas but does open in FCP?
DavidNJ wrote on 11/19/2003, 7:34 PM
It doesn't open on the PC...QT or Vegas. They can play the audio though.

The QT capture was created by a FCP capture and is the basis of my FCP editing. At this point I subclipped the footage, labeling each, and placed them in the appropriate scene bins. So...yes...FCP opens it.

Equally important...what FCP settings do I need to export this in a format Vegas can read?

If you would like a copy, I could probably create a 1 or 2 second sample (6-12 MB) and e-mail it.

Thanks,

David