Multi Cam Editing Problem

andrew-ritter wrote on 5/19/2013, 12:06 PM

I've recently upgraded from VMSPlatinum9 to VP12 Suite. My main reason to go with Pro was for muti cam editing, but it is giving me problems.
I'm working on a music video. I have 5 tracks of camera footage. Three were shot with the same camera during different takes of the song. Two are Iphone files. None of the footage was sync'd but I have sync'd them via the audio tracks. All of the tracks are one continuous file. I have deleted the camera audio which is not being used. I'm just using audio from the console and digital recorder.
When I go to tools/multi camera/ create multi camera event, it saves the upper video track but deletes all video tracks under that one. The upper video track does not seem like it has been changed at all.
After undoing that edit, I go to Tools/multi camera/ multi camera editing, the upper track is now visible in the preview window, with a blue outline but no other tracks are visible. If I mute the upper track, the next track down becomes visible, but no other tracks.
Any ideas? I'm a novice, so I feel like I'm learning to swim here.
My system is my office computer which was good quality at the time but not intended for video work. It is:
AMD Quad Core 1.8ghz
6mg ram
Not sure about video, pretty sure it's onboard.

Comments

OldSmoke wrote on 5/19/2013, 12:22 PM

A multi cam track uses the tracks selected for it and puts the others below is. In the preview window you should see all five takes but one is highlighted which would be the active take. You should first name your tracks and then make the multi track; this way the name of the track is shown in the preview window. If yo have an external or second monitor too, you can also select whether to see the final output full screen or a copy of the preview window with all the tracks. I do mostly multi cam projects and it works very well in vegas pro. The Vegas help file is also very useful.

musicvid10 wrote on 5/19/2013, 12:22 PM

Copy ALL the tracks to new tracks before you create the multicam track. Then everything's there if you need it
Select all the tracks (one set) you want included in the multicam track.
Don't select "Edit multicam audio with video." Do the audio separately.

Really, that's all there is to it.

andrew-ritter wrote on 5/19/2013, 4:14 PM

Thank you for the replies. Here's a little more info:
I did name the five video tracks.
I select all five video tracks prior to selecting Multi Cam Editing
Only one track is then visible in the preview window. It is the upper track that is on the time line, and the rest of the tracks from the time line are not visible in the preview window. I figure all five should be visible in the preview window, but that's not happening.
If I mute the upper track on the time line, then the next track down on the time line becomes visible in the preview window. But only that track is visible.

musicvid10 wrote on 5/19/2013, 4:23 PM

Vegas supports 4 multicamera tracks per project. You can always add more tracks by rendering, or possibly by nesting (dunno?)

After you have created the multicam track, then you must enable multicam editing. There you will see 4 panels in the preview, one for each camera. It is also easy to expand the multicam track in order to see all of your synchronized takes (you did sync them, right?).

There are many step-by-step tutorials on the Cow, Youtube, and elsewhere to introduce you to the basic concepts.
The manual is also of help, beginning on p.191.
Best of luck.

Byron K wrote on 5/19/2013, 5:21 PM

To see all the tracks in multicam, in addition to selecting Tools, Multicamera, Enable Multicamera Editing you have to also select Tools, Multicamera, Create Multicamera Track.

Now you'll be able to see up to four tracks at a time.

andrew-ritter wrote on 5/19/2013, 7:13 PM

I guess I should have thought to search YouTube. I watched several instuctional videos and have a better understanding now. I didn't realize that when you create a mutli cam track, that all of the other tracks get layered on top of each other. That had me perplexed. I'll give it a go tomorrow with this new info and hope it goes smoother.
Will I be able to edit all five tracks? One video showed editing six tracks, so I hope I can do my five. Actually my fifth track has very little footage that I'm going to use, so I could probably cut and paste that footage into another track ahead of time.
What about titles on a separate track. Will that get rendered into the final or do I need to place them into one of the video tracks before doing the multi cam edit?

Tom Pauncz wrote on 5/19/2013, 7:32 PM

Do your titling once the multi tracks have been cut and finalized.
Tom

PeterWright wrote on 5/19/2013, 7:57 PM

I'm not sure what the upper limit is for number of tracks, but Vegas can do at least 16 - I've just tested.

musicvid10 wrote on 5/19/2013, 9:01 PM

16 multicam tracks natively? That's new.

PeterWright wrote on 5/20/2013, 3:22 AM

Maybe came with Vegas12 - used to be able to do 12 tracks in Vegas 11.

Byron K wrote on 5/21/2013, 1:15 AM

Thanks for the Tip!
Didn't know we could do more than 4 multi-cam tracks at the same time... (:

altarvic wrote on 5/21/2013, 7:44 AM

I believe that Vegas Pro allows an unlimited number of Multicam tracks, starting with version 8 (when Multicam was introduced)

andrew-ritter wrote on 5/23/2013, 10:55 AM

I was able to edit my five tracks of video using multi cam mode. Thanks to everone that helped. I have a question that I think I know the answer to, but I figure I should ask in case I'm missing something. If I put transitions between camera changes, is there anyway to preview how they look before rendering, without having a second monitor, which I don't have? I have a feeling I'm going to end up spending a fortune on this little hobby.

OldSmoke wrote on 5/23/2013, 11:31 AM

There sure is; Ctrl+Shift+D will change the preview window back to single view showing the final result. That is also the only way to see all the applied FX on your footage. In multicamera mode when the preview window shows all the different camera shots you will only the see the raw footage, no fx no transitions; that is to preserve resources.

As for a second monitor, as long as you have a second video or HDMI output, those are really cheap to get and dont need to be of big size either. A small 20" LCD will do as long as it can display 16:9 format but even that isnt so critical and shouldnt be more then $100-$120.