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Geoff_Wood wrote on 10/12/2012, 4:37 PM
I think you can change the Default fade type, but not select and change multiple fades at once. How would you select them all anyway ?

geoff
Arthur.S wrote on 10/13/2012, 7:07 AM
Well, you could change one clip, then copy. Select the rest/Paste attributes. Unfortunately, this will also paste any effects etc of the copied clip too.
Grazie wrote on 10/13/2012, 7:56 AM
I've never seen the FadeType being part of any control or Scripting.

G
Maverick wrote on 10/13/2012, 7:58 AM
I think you can change the Default fade type, but not select and change multiple fades at once. How would you select them all anyway ?
Same way as I'd selected them before dragging the fade control.

Arthur, that would be ideal if all event require the same FX but I doubt that will often happen.

Seems like it can't be done...
Gary James wrote on 10/13/2012, 11:40 AM
Maverick, my free Timeline Tools Sony Vegas Pro Utility can do what you want. I just released a new version v1.0.41, that I started working on about two weeks ago that will allow you to only adjust the Curve Type of All or Selected Events.

The image below shows the Track Tools Tab where this is done. In the lower left you have the ability to add Event Overlap, Gaps, Adjust Fades and Fade types. Simply select the checkbox for Selected Events Only. Then Check the "Ignore" checkboxes to the left of the Event Size, Overlap Size and Gap Size input fields. Select the Fade Type that you want, and select the Vegas Timeline Events that you want to modify. Finally press the Adjust Events button.

rs170a wrote on 10/13/2012, 11:44 AM
Gary, thanks very much for this.
Your app keeps getting better and better and it's still free which is a real bonus.

Mike
Arthur.S wrote on 10/13/2012, 12:09 PM
Yep. Well done Gary. How much longer are Sony going to keep bringing out "new and improved" versions of Vegas without adding REAL improvements to workflow like being able to select WHAT attributes you paste, instead of 'gimmicks'. :-(
Gary James wrote on 10/13/2012, 12:44 PM
That's exactly why I created this utility. I found that Vegas has incredible editing capability, but was lacking in the ability to handle many simple editing tasks. For example, more than once I made several edits and discovered that I had inadvertently moved some events that became disconnected from their associated envelope points. Moving and realigning the points was a real pain in the butt. With TLT you simply select the points from a list of envelope points. Position your Vegas cursor, and click a button. All the selected points are moved to the cursor location and maintain their relative spacing.

TLT is not a substitute for the great Sony Vegas utilities like Ultimate-S, Excalibur, or Vegasaur. But it does make a good companion to handle the grunt editing tasks.
Grazie wrote on 10/13/2012, 12:47 PM
Gary? As per the OP's request.

But if I then want to change the

Does your s/w do the "Fade Type" as it is called in Vegas?



Cheers

Grazie

Gary James wrote on 10/13/2012, 1:03 PM
The fade types listed in the drop down list are enumerated directly from the Vegas API. They include:

None, Fast, Linear, Sharp Slow and Smooth. I added another selection "Ignore" so that Fade Type changes can be ignored if you do not want to alter that existing setting.

So the answer is yes. Although I don't display them in the graphical icon way that Vegas does.

*** edit: I should add that Fade type will adjust both the In and Out curve settings. My program does not yet support individually setting the In and Out curve types. But this is moot in Event Overlap situations. The Leading Curve type always overrides the Trailing Curve. So this capability would only be useful with Events that are not overlapped.
Grazie wrote on 10/13/2012, 4:42 PM
Gary: But this is moot in Event Overlap situations. The Leading Curve type always overrides the Trailing Curve. So this capability would only be useful with Events that are not overlapped.

No, I disagree.

The subtleties that the "Fade Type" give, Leading or Trailing Event-Fades, are self-evident to me. I don't see or hear that the Trailing overlaps are overridden? Yes, they are subtle, but they are there. Why would SF, and now SCS have made such a "thing" about them if they weren't apparent, necessary or asked for? When I select one of the more "obscure" fades types, I can see the combo of difference in the curves and I can see/hear the differences as the cursor passes through.

Cheers

Grazie
altarvic wrote on 10/13/2012, 5:16 PM
FYI, Vegasaur allows to set multiple fades of all types
Grazie wrote on 10/14/2012, 12:43 AM
Wow! Thanks for that Altarvic. And could I set a selection/group of Fade Types ALL at the same time?

Cheers

Grazie

Gary James wrote on 10/14/2012, 9:39 AM
Grazie, here's an example of how the fade In Curve type has precedence over the Fade Out Curve type in Sony Vegas Pro.

As I slide the second Event with a Sharp Curve to overlap with the first with a Fast Curve, the result is a Sharp Curve in the overlap area, not a blend of the two.


Maverick wrote on 10/15/2012, 10:59 AM
Thanks for all the replies and interesting discussion.

I'll look into all the suggestions soon but, for now, am deep into another project.

Cheers.