my videos come out rather bad quality

diviprod wrote on 10/21/2013, 3:23 PM
I have made a couple of videos with vegas movie studio 11 platinum suite with various source material, one video with dslr pictures one with canon s100 hd videos and on other channels with cameraphone videos.

All come out degraded and even more so on youtube, they look alright on youtube if you choose a bigger resolution but still watch it in a small window but if you look at the video in say 360p in the small standard window or 1080p full screen they don't look very good.
The video with dslr pictures is a bit grainy looking and the s100 video looks really pixely in some parts like in the waves at the beach in the begging of the video

here are the videos
dslr pictures video


s100 .mov video


I have tried matching the project settings to video source material and also when rendering and I have choosen in customization best quality when rendering

I see other peoples videos look a loot better playing in 360p in the small window or 1080p in full screen.
examples





Please help me

Comments

Steve Grisetti wrote on 10/21/2013, 4:51 PM
The video from your camcorder looks great to me!

What Render As template did you use to output it?

Remember that YouTube always re-encodes and recompresses whatever you post to the site, so there is an ideal format to upload to get the best quality on the site.

As for your photos, most people are a little disappointed with their slideshows. No video is going to be as detailed or as high a resolution as your original photos. But, again, there are things you can do to optimize the experience.

What projet settings did you use for your slideshow? Naturally, a project set up as high-def is going to give you a sharper video than one set up for standard definition video.
diviprod wrote on 10/22/2013, 2:57 PM
you mean this video?
s100 .mov video


In case you do, I must wonder if your vision is good? no insult intended and no joke but I think it looks terrible during many parts.
Sometimes it looks alright but a lot of it especially like the ocean in the first 30 seconds or so and also in other parts of the video looks so bad.. UNLESS you choose like to watch it in the small window but choose something like 720p then it looks pretty good all the way but other peoples videos look a lot better IN 360p.

I know youtube degrades all videos a little bit but other peoples videos look a lot crisper like in the examples I gave.

I use internet video 1080p and have adjusted the framerate to fit the source material and choose best quality.

I don't remember the exact project settings for the slideshow since it was a while ago but I did choose 1080p I am sure of.

Seriously I don't understand why you don't see the blurry pixely waves in my video and the much crisper quality in the other videos I posted..

thanks for replying
gpsmikey wrote on 10/23/2013, 11:23 PM
I did see some of what you were talking about - it looked like where it was most obvious was where there was lots of motion in the video. Motion tends to fall apart if the bit-rate is too low - it can't keep up with all the changes going on then gets sharper when there is little or no motion in the video. You might try bumping the bit rate up and see if that gives you better results ( I saw something the other day where they were pointing out not to shoot a "talking head" for example in front of a tree with the leaves moving in the breeze - the moving leaves will totally eat up the bandwidth.

mikey
diviprod wrote on 10/24/2013, 5:29 AM
I'm glad you saw what I was talking about.
Interesting about the motion falls apart even if the camera is rather still and I do see some of that when watching other videos with lots of motion but it still almost always look much better than my videos does, their videos loose some clearness but mine get so damn pixely like it's being watched in 240p instead of 360p.
I did bump the bitrate up to 24 000 000 which was the most possible and I've heard more than about 10 000 000 doesn't really do any difference on youtube.


And the video with high quality still pictures, it doens't look pixely but still more grainy than other peoples videos.

I am sure this must have something to do with the editing software or settings within it beacuse the source material is looking so much better in all the videos I made.

Thanks for replying, hope someone can help me sort this beacuse it isn't even fun to produce this pixely mess
diviprod wrote on 10/27/2013, 6:05 PM
Bump. Please help me with the video quality.

Isn't this the best forum for getting help with this sort of questions since it is sonys own forum?
Warper wrote on 10/28/2013, 5:30 PM
You are not the first with similar complaints, and there is no silver bullet.

Avoid full screen motion like forest in the wind or live ocean.
Avoid medium speed panoramic views.
Avoid medium speed zoom in/out.
diviprod wrote on 10/28/2013, 6:19 PM
So is this a problem many people have using vegas movie studio/pro then which might work out better with another videoeditor?
Beacuse there are people that produce very nice looking videos with full screen waves in motion for example.

Thanks for replying :)
Chienworks wrote on 10/28/2013, 10:17 PM
You can encode anything smoothly and clearly if you throw enough bits at it. Try a higher bitrate.
Warper wrote on 10/29/2013, 6:01 PM
If you make a quick ocean view, it is ok. Youtube can raise bitrate for quick complex scene without artifacts. But if you keep it for dozen of seconds, your video will face VBV restrictions and quality will drop eventually. If you keep it complex for the whole 5 minutes, your whole movie will be bitrate starving and you will see artifacts all the way.

You will get quite the same problem using any other video editor. It's not vegas fault. It's youtube fault to not give you enough average bitrate for complex scenes for the whole duration of the movie, but it's common for every regular youtube user.

People lost their fear in shooting anything. Now they turn camera straight into the sun and still want to get quality picture of it. They don't set up light and still want shady part being visible. They don't set up color balance and still want quality color. They don't know about focus and want it to follow their idea, not even the center of the screen.

The root of artifacts is that: your imagination is not restricted by thinking about how it can be packed and presented later.