Need help on decision for transitions.

UlfLaursen wrote on 1/1/2010, 5:37 AM
Hi

I am doing a couple of concerts DVD's with 2 different choirs.

I edit each song individually, where I cut the ends and sync up separate audio, so and need to transit between them in the finale.

Not sure what will work the best? I was thinking of just fading to/from black in both ends both video and audio, but any input on this is welcome.

Thanks.

/Ulf

Comments

farss wrote on 1/1/2010, 5:40 AM
K.I.S.S.

Bob.
Former user wrote on 1/1/2010, 5:45 AM
I go with Bob on this one. Transitions can tend to date a project whereas a good old fade up and down will always be in style.

Dave T2
TorS wrote on 1/1/2010, 6:28 AM
I agree, too. But you might want to put the title and composer/lyricist of the next song up on the black fade-out space between songs.
Tor

(Godt nyttår!)
ritsmer wrote on 1/1/2010, 6:31 AM
It really depends on the mood of that music too.

Besides the above good ideas one could also think at a page peel (Bottom-Right) - implicit signalling a new "turn" in your video.

Or when more distance is wanted - a crossfade over a connecting something else - i.e. a picture of the concert hall or the like...
BudWzr wrote on 1/1/2010, 7:42 AM
Myself, I don't like gaps, and those transitions are garish.

I like to composite the fade, and sometimes I clip 1 sec off the front of the incoming and timestretch it (pull the tail to reset the beginning), then it comes in as if queued up already (like a still) and doesn't interfere with the audio.

Continuity is preserved, there's no cut, and the clips are presented "together", as if one performance.

P.S. I'm Not A Pro
UlfLaursen wrote on 1/1/2010, 9:22 AM
Thanks guys :-)

It is quite energetic music (gospel) so I think I'll do a fade in/out. A good idea with the titles too.

/Ulf
bsuratt wrote on 1/1/2010, 10:00 AM
Ulf

I am doing a choir shoot in a large auditorium in a few weeks... what microphones did you use... (I usually record sound separately on a Zoom H2 with ext mic(s) from a mixer. Currently I only have 2 Shure SM58s, probably need something more suited to choir)... any suggestions?




UlfLaursen wrote on 1/1/2010, 10:22 AM
Hmmm not realy - I'm for sure no expert. :-)

I did my first real recording with my Editol R9, and Roland actually recommended to use the 2 internal mics. and I am pretty impressed when I compare the Edirol sound to the one from the internal Pana 151 mic.

I will try to experiment next time with external mics on my Edirol, I have both a Senn MKE80 and a Røde NTG2.

/Ulf
BudWzr wrote on 1/1/2010, 10:46 AM
Have you ever tried 5.1 recording or 4 channel on the H2 with the built in mics? I'm just curious.


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I am doing a choir shoot in a large auditorium in a few weeks... what microphones did you use... (I usually record sound separately on a Zoom H2 with ext mic(s) from a mixer. Currently I only have 2 Shure SM58s, probably need something more suited to choir)... any suggestions?
bsuratt wrote on 1/1/2010, 4:18 PM
Yes I have using the H2's built in mics, but only for ambient noise outdoors. Seems to work very well. I recorded a water ski show with boats & skiers on one side and audience applause on other side (from behind). When put with video it was very realistic.

H2 is sensitive to handling noise so it should be mounted stationary to avoid this.

It would probably work OK for choir depending on the placement.

BudWzr wrote on 1/1/2010, 5:29 PM
i have one too, and I once used it in stereo mode to record a train passing. I didn't think to use 4 channel, because I wasn't sure about it. Thanks.
Derm wrote on 1/2/2010, 5:42 AM
About the mics....

Not sure what your budget is but a pair of these is a an option:
http://www.thomann.de/ie/rode_nt_5.htm

Obviously there are much more expensive options available but theses are good.
bsuratt wrote on 1/2/2010, 8:28 AM
Thanks Derm... I've been looking at those.