Need help with pan croping/getting video to fit

Max-Raile wrote on 8/7/2022, 7:10 AM

I'm using vegas pro 19.0 on a windows 11 laptop.

When i import a 1080x1920 (a standing phone full sized video) it's not covering the full sixe in vegas pro. i have tried both 1920x1080 and 1080x1920 videos and none of them cover the full screen. When i try to use the pan crop tool it dosen't work either.

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jetdv wrote on 8/7/2022, 7:21 AM

Open Pan/Crop, right-click the image, and choose "Match Output Aspect".

Former user wrote on 8/7/2022, 7:21 AM

@Max-Raile Hi, your project is 9:16 Portrait, your media looks like 16:9 Landscape, try right click Match output or source, if your media is 16:9 it will be cropped in a 9:16 project

Former user wrote on 8/7/2022, 7:26 AM

@Max-Raile If you look in Project Media the thumbnails show as 16:9 landscape but all the others are 9:16 portrait

Dexcon wrote on 8/7/2022, 7:30 AM

Regardless of any NLE that you are using, if you want to use your phone's camera for a 16:9 project in your NLE, turn the phone horizontally so that the phone will film in 16:9, not 9:16. Nonetheless, with 9:16 video in Vegas Pro, you have a couple of options:

1/ use track motion on a dedicated track to zoom in on the 9:16 image so that it fills the width of the 16:9 screen - but with a HUGE loss of resolution both V and H; or

2/ use Vegas' Black Bar Fill to fill and blur out the L and R areas of the 6:19 image.

When using a phone camera, take into account the destination of that video. If it is going to other 9:16 phones and 9:16 apps, then continue with vertical 9:16 filming; if the destination is to be TV 16:9, then hold the phone horizontally - and importantly you maximise your phone's resolution this way.

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Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Former user wrote on 8/7/2022, 8:45 AM

then hold the phone horizontally - and importantly you maximise your phone's resolution this way.

@Dexcon ?

This is a clip i made, i had to put it portrait to get everything in

Can you explain a little & point out where i'm loosing resolution? the 16:9 on the right is taken with the same camera, both are orig unedited straight from phone, the 9:16 shows as rotated 90º (the frame rate on my phone media is different for all clips regardless of aspect)

 

3POINT wrote on 8/7/2022, 9:47 AM

You will loose resolution when you display your 9:16 recording on a 16:9 display (or turn your 16:9 90 degrees to get a 9:16 display). Turning a phone 90 degrees is no problem, turning a TV 90 degrees is not so easy.

Max-Raile wrote on 8/7/2022, 9:48 AM

You will loose resolution when you display your 9:16 recording on a 16:9 display (or turn your 16:9 90 degrees to get a 9:16 display). Turning a phone 90 degrees is no problem, turning a TV 90 degrees is not so easy.

the first comment helped me fix it. But thanks anyways :)

3POINT wrote on 8/7/2022, 9:51 AM

@Max-Raile My comment was for @Former user, not a solution to your question.

Max-Raile wrote on 8/7/2022, 9:52 AM

@Max-Raile My comment was for @Former user, not a solution to your question.

Ok

Former user wrote on 8/7/2022, 9:53 AM

@3POINT That's what i was thinking, the resolution of the phone clip is the same either way, 9:16 or 16:9, it's what yo do with that footage after 👍

Dexcon wrote on 8/7/2022, 6:32 PM

an you explain a little & point out where i'm loosing resolution? 

@Former user  ... My reasoning for saying this is:

Phone camera vertically framed 9:16 = H 3,840 x W 2,160

NLE / TV horizontally framed 16:9 = H 2,160 x W 3,840

Importing a 9:16 image into a 16:9 space automatically reduces the 9:16 image's H of 3.840 to 2,160 because 2,160 is the standard height of a 4K project. To maintain the 9:16's vertical rez in a 16:9 environment, you'd have to create a 16:9 project with a H rez of 3.840 - but then you'd also need a display that has a 3.840 height (and circa 6,826 width to maintain 16:9).

If the 9:16 is zoomed in so that the image fills the 16:9 screen horizontally (thus chopping the top and bottom vertically), the 2,160 W of the 9:16 image is still effectively 2,160 (because that's the original image size) even though it's filling a 3,840 space in a 16:9 project. I'm not completely certain, but I suspect that the zoom in will not reduce the V rez of 2,160 as long as the 9:16 image doesn't reduce below full-frame vertically. In other words, V 2,160 in the 16:9 frame is maintained while any V 2,160 or greater framing of the 9:16's V 3,840 image is cropped.

Post-Pro prcessing like an Uprez plugin might help, but the above is looking at the original video. I'm happy to be coorrected if there is any error in the above reasoning.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 20, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz