Need to INVERT via Windows Media Encoder 7.1?

Grazie wrote on 12/23/2003, 10:02 PM
Got a colleague who has this happening:

"Windows Media Encoder 7.1

Having just downloaded Windows Media Encoder 7.1 why do I have to invert the video clip before using the Encoder so that it appears correct when using Windows Media Player."

Interested? - All thoughts very welcome. I'll pass on the feedback . .

Happy Hols Eveybody!!

Grazie

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Liam_Vegas wrote on 12/23/2003, 10:18 PM
Is it because your colleague lives in Australia and you live in the UK?

Or rather the video clip he is using was captured on a camera in a different hemisphere of the Earth to the one the encoding is being done in? I think there is a setting somewhere in the Windows Media Encoder where you tell it this stuff and it works it all out.

(couldn't help myself)
Grazie wrote on 12/23/2003, 10:27 PM
LV - Hah! Hah! Hah! . . . I think you've created the first Christmas Cracker, Vid/TechHead Joke . ..

Anyways, back on message . . . You saying that there is a setting for invert etc within WMEnc? Where he be? Any ideas . . ? In the meantime I'll pass this on . . many thanks . . . I really did appraciate the humour . . in this Topsy-Turvey World . . erm . ."Keep yer End Up Pal!"

Grazie
Liam_Vegas wrote on 12/23/2003, 10:40 PM
Glad you liked the humor.... I don't know of any feature in the Windows Media Encoder that would invert video (I do use the latest version but I am no expert in it).

It honestly sounded to me like it was a joke (that I thought was quite funny)... I mean how on earth can a video be upside down? What sort of setting or video codec would cause that to happen? This just sounds soooo funny.

I can imagine as a joke capturing some video with the camera upside down... or maybe even inverting it within Vegas and giving it to a colleague and faking suprise when they come back and say... hey... this video is upside down! Really.... I wonder how that happened... must be something wrong with your PC.

Anyway... it sounds like a most strange problem.


[edit]... or are you sayijng the source video IS the right way up... but somehow the encoded video after WME has done it's stuff is upside down?
Grazie wrote on 12/23/2003, 11:21 PM
Hiyah LV! YEah I guess it could have been a joke. But, this is from a pro forum I belong to. It would be very remiss if this was the case . . but point taken.

No, I believe it is a real World experience for this chap. And yes, I'll ask if he has in some NLE way "inverted" the clip. However, I'd like to know if WMEnc has a setting to be able to invert . . maybe he has clicked this . . I don't know .. . I'll ask him. But is it your thoughts that this would be a very "unusual" result?

Grazie
Liam_Vegas wrote on 12/23/2003, 11:38 PM
I've just been looking through the WME interface... and I can't find anything obvious that would invert the video. There are a LOT of options and settings... so I cannot rule it out...
Grazie wrote on 12/23/2003, 11:45 PM
Okay, the "can't rule it out", maybe something is in there - yeah? Is there a "default"/"factory" setting this chap could revert to?

Grazie
farss wrote on 12/23/2003, 11:51 PM
I've seen this happen with old versions of WME and for once I can honestly say this is not cause I live at the bottom of the world.
But don't laugh it does affect somethings, convergence being one of them.
But here is a techie funny story. Many, many years ago someone was setting up the first demo of color TV in this country over a closed link. Camera in one building pointed at bowl of fruit and monitor in the other. Techies get everything setup and looking as good as early TV could and go home. Next day they come in a lttle early as today the public get to see it for the first time. Colours are out something horrendous and no amount of tweaking will fix it. You've probably guessed it by now, overnight some joker has spray painted the fruit.
Grazie wrote on 12/23/2003, 11:59 PM
. . . okay, okay, okay . . I will stay on message here . . but yes, my one is the In-Console monitor being removed and put back in upside down . . The backroom guys didn't take to this . .after the 2nd hour of hi-tech head-scratching, somebody came clean . . .

. . okay, convergence and older WMencs may have it?

Grazie

Chienworks wrote on 12/24/2003, 6:49 AM
Here's the most relavant forum thread i've found on the topic:

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=179768

It looks like it's sometimes a problem when using newer encoders with older players. Of course, one work around is to invert the video in Vegas, render out a new upside down copy, then encode that version. Not a very elegant solution, i'm afraid.