Sure, I do realise that - Bob! But in terms of of straightforward workflow - BOSH! Done!

It's all that interim futzing about that really ain't necessary. Having the language of nests to be carried thru' is the thing that intrigues me? Nests to DVDA or ACID or SF . . kinda bringing it all together.

Grazie

All that interim futzing around is very vital. You should be taking as much care and possibly as much time handling downconversion and encoding as you do editing. That's before you get to the authoring phase. Making a professional quality DVD from a finished video is a lot of work and not just a drag project into an authoring app and hoping for the best.

Heck many people here are far from happy with the MC encoder that ships with Vegas and it certainly isn't the best out there. The way it works in DVDA is much more restricted than how it performs in DVDA. At the moment DVDA offers only the most basic of encoding capabilities, marginal authoring and marginal burning capabilities.

Perhaps you should wait until you have to wrangle HD, I think you're in for a bumpy ride.

Just my opinion of course. I'd also add I can think of many more pressing matters for SCS to be slaving over at the moment.

Bob.

Grazie,

Sounds like you are wanting a Mac!! :)

I agree with the others, the getting to DVDA is the most important of the processes. If DVDA (and Vegas for that matter) had the Best encoders out there, that would be great. But I am in a position to compare MPEG HD encoders and believe me, there is a difference.

Dave T2

Bob, Bob, Bob, . . I realise I used the "futzing" word when I should have said that we need to make all those professional decisions. I really do know that. And as for the HD thing when I get there yes sure of course. But, but, but . . I had an idea, and you haven't countered it. What you have said is that I should realise that there is a reason for the interim decision making - this I really know! What I want to pitch here is just the idea - seeesshh . . hard work this . . .

I am not saying INSTEAD of - I am saying INCLUDING. It's not one thing at the elimination of the other, and YES SCS have bigger bugs to fry. I really know that too.

I really am picking up your "resistance" to purely the idea? What's THAT about? Yeah?

Grazie

Yes, DT2, it is only an idea, and without ideas there would NOT have been DVDs, the wheel, VHS and so on and so on!!

What is your issues here. No, I DON'T want a MAC either.

Grazie

Although I NEVER use DVDA (I prefer Encore DVD); I think this is a great idea.

Simply drop your .veg into DVDA w/markers and all.
Check it and make any necessary adjustments to the Video/Chapter marks & Menu then hit Burn.

If DVDA/Sony had a Decent Encoder... this would totally work.
Adobe already does something similar yet not as smooth/robust as the OP suggests - http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/video_workshop/?id=vid0257

My workflow does NOT consist of exporting MPEGs for DVDs. I export a Full Sized File (usually quicktime animation) then make my DVD from that. -I do this so that I can then make whatever file type I need to from the QT Animation. I can also use this QT Animation in any other project that needs to reference any part of the clip.

Can't blame the OP for the DVDA Encoding capabilities... or lack there of.

Grazie,

I guess we hit a sore spot by disagreeing with you. Won't do that again.

Yes ideas are good, and sharing and discussing them (along with disagreeing with them) is good.

Dave T2

> Adobe already does something similar yet not as smooth/robust as the OP suggests

Actually what Adobe does is really nice because it extends to all of their applications. You can drop a Premiere Pro project into Encode or into After Effects, or drop an After Effects project into Premiere Pro, and maybe even their audio applications too. I haven't checked because I don't really use them, I just use After Effects and Photoshop out of CS4. But all of this is done without rendering.

I spoke to Sony about this last year at NAB. I said, imagine if you could drop a Vegas project into DVD Architect, or an ACID project into Vegas or a Vegas project into ACID, or ACID projects into Sound Forge? What an incredible workflow that would be. No more rendering to work in another application. Any changes made to the original will be reflected in the nested project. Sony already does this with nested Vegas projects so why not extend this to the entire suite (not just DVD Architect)?

The argument about not having DVD Architect render your MPEG is easily fixed, just add more control to DVD Architect. Being able to score a video in ACID without rendering it and then making edits to the video project that are reflected in the ACID project is an extreme workflow enhancer.

I think this would give the entire Sony suite a very powerful workflow.

~jr

I guess we hit a sore spot by disagreeing with you. Won't do that again.

So, I'm dammed if I do, and dammed if I don't? Can't quite win that one DT2?

Thanks you Synchie! - I think so too.

JR thanks for your input. All I'm after is some smoother workflow. I am NOT after removing the necessary pro tweaks and adjustments that even Simple-Grazie makes from time to time.

I guess we hit a sore spot by disagreeing with you. . . . Priceless . . . And no you didn't.

Grazie

Wow!!!

I was wanting to have lickety-spit trials on my SONY BRAVIA - yeah?

Better yet!!! Now HERE'S a novel thought: A Direct Wireless Link to my UpScaler TV straight from DVDA?!?? Or come to that straight from the VEgas Timeline?? Woah! - Oh yes, all via an encode just to make sure everything is singing and dancing.

Grazie