New Dell 24" LCD- anyone checked it out yet?

musman wrote on 3/20/2005, 3:28 AM
Just wondering as it seems almost too good to be true. 24", 12 ms response time, 1000:1 contrast ratio, 500 cd/m² brightness, 15-pin D-sub / DVI-D / S-video / Composite / Component / 4 x USB 2.0 inputs, 1920x1200 resolution. They only want $1200 for it. Here's the link to it on Dell's site:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1764466,00.asp

Of course, Dell doesn't make it and I would guess it's the Samsung 24" that was promised Q4 2004. These numbers sound incredible, and the reviews have all been favorable so far. I did find this review that seemed fairly scientific:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1764466,00.asp

But all this means little without real world responses from video editors. The HP 2335 got a few great reviews here and my experience has been that not all monitors can be properly calibrated. Hopefully this one can.
So, anyone seen one or had any experience with one yet?

Comments

busterkeaton wrote on 3/20/2005, 4:00 AM
Samsung indeed makes the panels for Dell.
I believe BenQ puts it all together. Dell has used this combination before with good results. For a while Dell had some quality control problems on a certain batch of 20" monitors that were manufactured by LG. From what I have read, they very good about replacing the bum models. The problem on the 20" was that there was light leak. Parts of the screen would be light, even when the screen was showing black.
I have not heard about this for the Dell 24" models.
kimgr wrote on 3/20/2005, 8:50 AM
I haven't tried the 24", but:
Be aware that the 20" 2005FPW and the 19" W1900 TV both displays video at a wrong aspect ratio.
Dell's engineers never heard of the fact that video uses a different pixel aspect ratio than a computer monitor, so I'm pretty sure it'll be the same with the 24"...
Nat wrote on 3/20/2005, 9:23 AM
Are you sauing that 16*10 is not the good aspect ratio ?
Liam_Vegas wrote on 3/20/2005, 9:27 AM
They all seem to be 16:10 aspect ratio (The HP L2335 is as well). I have not heard that it is a big problem.
Nat wrote on 3/20/2005, 9:32 AM
I personnaly don't mind it being 16*10. I doubt I would monitor in full res anyways if I had one. That's what video monitors are for...
busterkeaton wrote on 3/20/2005, 9:34 AM
Dell's engineers never heard of the fact that video uses a different pixel aspect ratio than a computer monitor, so I'm pretty sure it'll be the same with the 24"...

Um, Dell is selling it as a computer monitor.
Kula Gabe wrote on 3/20/2005, 5:45 PM
True, but I believe it has component video in, and is capable of taking a HD feed, for example from a HDV camera. I believe the newer HP 24" monitors have a setting for viewing 16:9 video. It would be nice if Dell did the same.
musman wrote on 3/20/2005, 9:33 PM
Am I wrong in thinking I heard that you could display a 16:9 signal just slightly letterboxed?
Liam_Vegas wrote on 3/20/2005, 9:52 PM
Am I wrong in thinking I heard that you could display a 16:9 signal just slightly letterboxed?

No... you are not wrong... although I am not sure if it letter boxes it slightly or if the image is very slightly stretched to fit the LCD screen. I might find out in a little while as I intend to order one - very soon.
ezway wrote on 3/20/2005, 10:41 PM
Thank you very much,
I know this does not matter much but I have the 20" inch Samsung and I love it! Easy to cal. and the blue is right on the money. I need two of the next monitor I buy, so it is out of my price range as I also need other equip.. The TM-H150CGU is my next buy, but I need some help please with the SDI card selection.

I will look, but I can't buy until my ex wife pays me back. 8^}
musman wrote on 3/21/2005, 12:33 AM
Sorry, you're going to order the Dell 24" do you mean? If so, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, post your reactions to it when you get a chance. I read somewhere about a discount to $860 or $925 if you call and order through the small business dell people. Not sure how legit that is, but if you do a search you might find the forums people talked about it. Just tried to find it but it's hopelessly lost now.
I do believe there's a 5% discount though on dell's site listed under discounts for monitor (and possibly digital cameras). Would save you $60, which isn't bad.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 3/21/2005, 12:51 AM
I think I found the same posts you did about that price... the later threads posted a statement that it was no longer available at that price. I have the phone number to call... and I'll let you know if I have success.
musman wrote on 3/21/2005, 1:30 AM
Very cool, thank you very much!
farss wrote on 3/21/2005, 4:59 AM
If you feed the output from the Z1 / FX1 into the HP 23" you end up with a stretched image i.e. it's too high so people appear slightly atller than they should. This isn't a major problem as you don't need to worry too much about AR being wrong coming out of a camera / VCR.
Used as the internal monitor for Vegas you can at a squeeze get the full frame of 1080 on it at the correct AR.
Be aware that not all video cards can manage a decent DVI feed at 1080.
Also as far as I know all LCD monitors are calibrated for the 601 SD colorspace so if you buy any of these and feed them with the component output from the HDV cameras you'll need to tweak the monitor.
Bob.
tnw2933 wrote on 3/21/2005, 1:04 PM
<If you feed the output from the Z1 / FX1 into the HP 23" you end up with a stretched image i.e. it's too high so people appear slightly atller than they should. This isn't a major problem as you don't need to worry too much about AR being wrong coming out of a camera / VCR.>

This problem with the HP L2335 can be corrected in using the monitor's Menu button, selecting "Zoom Off". Then output from my HDR-FX1 fed into the component input of the HP L2335 is the desired 16:9 -- not the 16:10 of the monitor's display. Of course, this means black bands across top and bottom of the image.

Tom