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wvg wrote on 1/23/2002, 5:27 PM
I hear you. I'm looking at it at 1280x1024 mainly because with my LCD panel that's the recommend size for best sharpness.

Taking a quick look at the source for the forum page it seems a cascading style sheet (CSS) is forcing a specific font size. Oops...

Double oops, new format blocks angle brackets, so reposting minus those

LINK REL=stylesheet HREF="/includes/fonts.css" TYPE="text/css"

I'm a little rusty on my HTML, I thought you could add your own custom CSS if you didn't like what the server serves up? That was what was suppose to happen at least according to Hakon Wium Lie who authored much of the original CSS for the W3C.
ROZ wrote on 1/23/2002, 5:34 PM
I'm also viewing at 1280 x 1024, and the new forum font size is WAY too small for these old eyes...

FadeToBlack wrote on 1/23/2002, 5:41 PM
BD wrote on 1/23/2002, 8:55 PM
At age 55, I also have problems reading this tiny text (at 1152x864 on a 21" monitor). Help!
mountainman wrote on 1/24/2002, 9:42 AM
Agree! the text is way to small to be comfortably read.
john
GillenFamily wrote on 1/24/2002, 11:18 AM
It is much harder to read. PS. I would hate to see anyone leave for something as minor as this. I know I have benefited alot from people like GG. So if SF can help please do so.

SonyKSA wrote on 1/24/2002, 12:12 PM
DuncanS wrote on 1/24/2002, 12:14 PM
Indeed! Absolute font sizes on the web are a BIG no, no.

Looking into the source they're using a CSS class called "tiny" which is defined in /includes/fonts.css as:
.tiny{font-size:6px}

No wonder we're all squinting! Dear forum developer: please use *relative* font sizes: for example '%' or 'em' units :-)
FadeToBlack wrote on 1/24/2002, 3:20 PM
Cheesehole wrote on 1/24/2002, 4:02 PM
just a quick note for Opera users... if you are using v6, you can zoom in on the page by holding ctrl and zooming the mouse wheel. or use the drop down on the top right corner of the page.

it just makes everything bigger including graphics so you can use super hi-res screen resolutions and not worry about web pages being too small.

but yeah, definitely fix the CSS style sheet for all the IE people. 6px? try 11 or 12 without the px. someone hates their audience! :o) just kiddin'

i like the new interface btw. thanks.
FadeToBlack wrote on 1/24/2002, 4:07 PM
wvg wrote on 1/24/2002, 4:25 PM
It really isn't "dead" space. Looking at the HTML as it is presently set up the table depth is needed to allow for the dropdown menu items that appear as you hover over Software, Services, etc.. Otherwise it just would be blank which would be dead space. So a little eye candy (the hands) seems appropriate.

While I think the comments about the text being too small is valid we need to keep in mind that afterall it is Sonic Foundry's web site and as such they have every right to reserve space to make it easier to jump to other areas on their site. Apparently you don't design web sites GG so you may not understand the need for some elements.

Just my two cents. :-)

FadeToBlack wrote on 1/24/2002, 4:46 PM
SonyKSA wrote on 1/24/2002, 5:05 PM
Okay. I think I've got something that's going to help with this problem. It still needs to be tested, but for those of you who'd like a preview, here's the proceedure:

1. Go to http://beta.sonicfoundry.com/forums and login.

2. Click "Edit Account", and you'll see a new "Font Size" option toward the bottom of the form. Make a choice, and submit.

The font size should now be larger. The font increase will affect many of the pages on beta.sonicfoundry.com.

Also let me know what you think of the font control and if this helps.

SonyKSA wrote on 1/24/2002, 5:17 PM
Right on. No offense taken here.

With the new design we were hoping to eliminate some of the wasted space. Check out the old forum and you'll see the blue bar at the top and the white space around it take up a little more room than this new banner.

I can probably tighten things up a little more yet though. I'll keep on it.
kevrlill wrote on 1/24/2002, 5:27 PM
I like it. Thanks! I keep my resolution at 1024x728.
The "larger" text option is comfortable. The pages seem to load faster now or is that my imagination?
It's like my car seems faster after washing and waxing :)
wvg wrote on 1/24/2002, 6:12 PM
You're right GG, we all learn from each other and I appreciate what you've shared as I'm sure others do. I guessed by how you phrased your comment you weren't too deeply into HTML and so I just gave a quick how come kind of response. :-)
FadeToBlack wrote on 1/24/2002, 6:55 PM
FadeToBlack wrote on 1/24/2002, 8:06 PM
ROZ wrote on 1/24/2002, 9:53 PM
Works great, SonicKSA. Thanks!
FadeToBlack wrote on 1/24/2002, 10:42 PM
PeterWright wrote on 1/25/2002, 12:28 AM
I'm also not into HTML, but I still think the "hands space" could go - at the time you're using the drop down menus above the space you're not needing to read what the drop downs cover up, so why not make the message space that much bigger?
DuncanS wrote on 1/25/2002, 10:23 AM
A rather strange approach! So, browsers have this built-in facility to scale fonts that are not specified explicitly by the publisher... and you ignore this and cook up your own mechanism! Oh well... it'll do. :-)
SonyKSA wrote on 1/25/2002, 10:26 AM
There is a seperate cookie for beta.sonicfoundry.com and www.sonicfoundry.com, but your setup info is also stored in a database. This could lead to some confusing/unpredictable results when you're changing settings on both servers.

I'll roll this out onto www.sonicfoundry.com later today, and then let's see if the problem persists.