@VEGASDerek, you said in another post:
Our team media/video engine team is working on two specific things at the moment...AV1 support and a major rebuild of the video engine.
This is good news. But can you be more specific. What is the video engine? How will the new engine affect video preview, decoding, rendering etc?
Jøran Toresen
I honestly haven't noticed any improvement on the preview performance in V21. XAVCI 4k is still very slow, add FX and it's down to lowest resolution preview modes to run more or less smoothly.
Presumably a new video engine would reduce the bottlenecks the current system has. At present, high data rates, long GOP video, etc. seems to overwhelm the system. Even though the GPU decoders are working they're hitting bottlenecks somewhere further down the line. Ditto for Fx, etc. which often doesn't fully use the GPU capabilities of modern systems.The faster VEGAS can decode and process the video the faster it can render so there should be higher throughput overall.
Of course this is all speculation and I don't expect we'll hear details from VCS until they have something ready to launch. May it be sooner rather than later.
In general, fixing the bottlenecks (and we have many of them) in decoding, color conversion and fx processing will all contribute to improved render times (as Roger has stated) as well as the obvious boost in playback performance. We are working on all three of these areas right now. I know users have been anxious for these sort of improvements in VEGAS for a long time, and I will continue to ask for patience on this. We've promised performance improvements in the past but have not delivered. That has primarily been due to lack of the engineering resources required for this work. That has now changed and we do have expert engineers with our team who have done some impressive work on similar pieces of code in other software products. We are making progress and we hope to have something to show in the first half of 2024. In fact, some of the initial changes will be in the hands of our beta testers before the end of the year.
Believe me when I say that our team realizes that without these performance improvements and a continued stress on improving the application's stability, VEGAS will be unable to survive in an extremely competitive environment. The engineering team loves VEGAS and we are extremely committed to the work we are doing. I can personally say that I have sunk my heart and soul into this product and I am happy to say that the engineers we have added in the last 6 months have quickly developed a similar passion. When we fail to meet our customer's expectations, I feel disappointed as do many of us on the team. We are not here simply to collect a paycheck. We have not given up or lost faith because we honestly believe VEGAS is a great tool.
Hopefully our next update, which we intend to release (fingers crossed) in November, will be met with positive feedback even if our video engine updates are not included yet. Will it fix everyone's problems? No, but we have done a lot to improve VEGAS. It's been a long stretch between updates, much longer than we would have wanted, so hopefully is it worth the wait for our users. We intent to release some hot fixes in the future so we do not have such a long stretch without any fixes to the application. We have had some major bug fixes that have been ready for a few months now, and I take personal blame for not getting a bug-fix only update out for all of you sooner. I will try not to let that happen again.
And finally, I would also add kudos to our beta testers who have been working closely with us and been very blunt about the issues they have been encountering. They have been great and will continue to be critical to our future success.
("first half of 2023" should read 2024 I assume)
("first half of 2023" should read 2024 I assume)
I'm living in the past. 😂
I'm just wondering, will the new video engine be a free update, or a paid version upgrade? I am loving version 21 right now, and but barely afforded the upgrade this year.
The entire rework of the video engine will take a very long time to complete. We plan to roll out improvements incrementally and we hope to have several improvements available before the maintenance cycle for VEGAS Pro 21 is over. The changes will continue into future for the next version of VEGAS as well.
The entire rework of the video engine will take a very long time to complete. We plan to roll out improvements incrementally and we hope to have several improvements available before the maintenance cycle for VEGAS Pro 21 is over. The changes will continue into future for the next version of VEGAS as well.
Next version mean Vegas 22?
Next version would be VEGAS 22 (and later), or equivalent if version naming changes.
Thank you @VEGASDerek for your honesty and openness. This is something that I've rarely ever read from someone working on the "inside" of a software. It answers a lot of questions and explains a lot about the future delivery of improvements, and giving a timeline. Admitting missteps in the way things have been done in the past, and not "passing the buck" shows me where your heart is at for the software in this difficult crowded field.
Kudos to the developers going forward!
Thank you Derek for the honesty and the team's commitment. Really great to see you join the forum and provide some feedback! I really appreciate the updates knowing that the team is actively working on these issues and setting up some expectations and not leaving us in the dark and guessing.
I've been using Vegas since V4 and absolutely love it....but must admit that during the dark days (V17ish), when there was no news, little updates and seemed like Sony was going to throw us all under the bus, I began looking at other software. For me, communication is important, yes somethings takes time to develop, but knowing that it's being worked on and not left in the dark is a huge plus. When Magix took over, I was a little skeptical...but then I started seeing some communication and gave me some hope and I hung on to Vegas.
As you are passionate about Vegas and keeping us happy, I am passionate about editing and keeping my clients happy, and Vegas is an intricate and vital role to making that happen!
I've been using Vegas since V4 and absolutely love it....but must admit that during the dark days (V17ish), when there was no news, little updates and seemed like Sony was going to throw us all under the bus, I began looking at other software.
@Julius_, Sony's last version was 13... 14 through 21 (and the last release of 13) have all been Magix
I've been using Vegas since V4 and absolutely love it....but must admit that during the dark days (V17ish), when there was no news, little updates and seemed like Sony was going to throw us all under the bus, I began looking at other software.
@Julius_, Sony's last version was 13... 14 through 21 (and the last release of 13) have all been Magix
Gosh, how time flies. Then it was V12 and V13
Thank you Derek!
Me, and I assume most people here, love and stick with Vegas and totally appreciate your dedication.
I'm perfectly willing to pay for preview performance improvements, it's the only thing as of now that really feels like a showstopper. I'm sure you'll get it solved sooner or later.