Newbie has questions on splitting...good tutorials...

belsokar wrote on 4/1/2003, 9:49 AM
So I'm very new to NLE's, and to Vegas Video in particular...I just did by first wedding this past weekend with a camera i rented (vx2000)...anyways,...I captured the video using vegas video capture tape feature...and basically got 4 huge files (one for each tape I captured)...I now want to be able to go through and log all my events (clips/scenes), and was told I can do this using the split feature...but it doesn't seem as intuitive as I perceived...I want to go through all my footage and find the clips I like and name them something easier to identify and access than my large 10 GIG file...

secondly,...the only tutorials i found here are for vegas 1.0 and 2.0...are these sufficient for learning 4.0? or is there something better out there? just looking for something to get me going in the right direction...

thanks!

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craftech wrote on 4/1/2003, 10:41 AM
Use the "S" key as a shortcut. To split and remove a section:
Line up the cursor, hit the "S" key to create each split. Click on the area between the splits to highlight it, hit the delete key to remove it. Double click on the leftover space created, hit delete again to remove the space and join the two halves. Stretch out each section where the splits were created to make sure you didn't end up with any of the mysterious "blank black frames" that no one can figure out what to do about.

John
BillyBoy wrote on 4/1/2003, 10:42 AM
Lots of people put up web sites. You can access them from my site. If anyone knows of others, let me know. :-)


http://www.wideopenwest.com/%7Ewvg/tutorial-menu.htm
belsokar wrote on 4/1/2003, 12:16 PM
thanks for the advice...but i have some followup questions...when I do a split, what is programatically happening? For example,...I have about 5 hours of video,...and from what I understand, I can go through and split out scenes I want and label them (for the purpose of organizing them) and easily access them later...? In your description,...I end up removing a section...what I'm hoping is to take "WeddingTape1.avi" (which happens to be 60 minutes in length), and somehoe create a virtual log of all the scenes I want (i.e. "Bride Closeup", "Ring Bearer", "The Kiss", etc...) and then once I'm ready to create my video, just search through all those events I created, and drop them on my timeline, organize,etc...am I heading in the right direction here? Thanks...
craftech wrote on 4/1/2003, 12:20 PM
Render each as a "loop region" only and save them as seperate files.
BillyBoy wrote on 4/1/2003, 2:24 PM
Your source file remains unchanged. What happens anytime you do something in Vegas it 'remembers' what you did in its project file, example: myproject.veg. Vegas uses what they call "events" which is really just a window into your source file. You can break your source file into any number of events.

a 'loop region' is just a section of the timeline. If you move your cursor just above the timeline it chages into a two headed arrow. Drag to make a region. You can render only a region (File, render as, check render loop region only) and name the resulting file anything you want. This would give you X number of files broken into scenes. You then could start a new project and drop the 'scenes' on the timeline in any order you wish or put each 'scene' on its own track.

Personally I find that the hard way. I much prefer to work from a single or multiple files, whatever is going to be part of the project, put it all on one track, then starting at the beginning trim out and discard what I know for sure I don't want. Once done I can then easily shuffle 'events' drop them to new track, etc.. To each his own. The advantage to my method is rendering it the last step and you do it once only for the FINISHED project and now ending up with a bunch of mini files, that you end up cutting and pasting and likely re rendering again.

You can add markers above the timeline and put notes as to what section is what if that helps.
belsokar wrote on 4/1/2003, 3:19 PM
thank you very much...i think the second way is the way to go...i'm not big on rerendering things since i'm on a slower computer to begin with...as long as I can mark the scenes, then thats good too...i guess I imagined the ability to note particular clips, and instead of just looking for markers and notes above the timeline, being able to organize them in a list by name, and then find them that way...also,...it would be nice to have clips I can mark in one project, and easily view those same clips from another project...(if I felt I was going to reuse a particular clip in quite a few projects I guess I could rerender it to its own file?)...anyways, thanks again for all the input...
Frenchy wrote on 4/1/2003, 3:29 PM
belsokar:

You can also "log" your tapes in the vidcap application, prior to capture (maybe even after capture?), under the advanced capture tab. You can name them, mark in and out points, rate them and have comments. You can also search and sort on these fields. You can mark them for batch capture, and only capture those portions of the tape you want to. The only thing vidcap does not have, is a way to export of print the vidcap database, outside of a screen capture/print. There have been several very helpful threads on this subject/application/techniques.

Frenchy
belsokar wrote on 4/1/2003, 4:25 PM
thanks again! my problem is that being a newbie, I don't own a camera, so I was just renting the camera, so I have already captured everything to my harddrive and have since returned the camera...I downloaded the demo version of vegas, and really knew nothing about how to use it...so now I am stuck w/ these large files trying to find the best way to manage them...