Yup, done that..it has to be something
a little more obscure.
The file I am using as a test was captured
by the sonic foundry capture facility from a
PAL PC100, the project settings are PAL DV and
the external monitor is set to PAL DV.
As I said the camera capture and write to tape
are O.K., so the OHCI card must be operational.
I tried pre-rendering, again using PAL DV.

My brain is starting to hurt.

Cheers for the reply.

Dave Hill wrote:
>>Make sure you have set both your project and your
external monitor to
>>NTSC DV (or pal if its a pal camera)
>>
>>Dominic Reid wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can capture in Vegas Video 2.0b, I can write the
file
>>>>back to the camera (PC100)so I am very confused that I
>>can
>>>>not use an external monitor (via the camera).
>>>> In preferences I have ticked the OHCI card box, and it
>>>>even says that the device is connected fine and is
>>>>operational when the camera is firewired up.
>>>> I have pressed the 'view on external monitor' tab and
am
>>>>using the same DV pal file type that the project is set
>>to.
>>>> I am using a Gateway 700 meg P111,win 2K, with a OHCI
>>card
>>>>and 256 megs of Ram.
>>>> I feel like I have missed the obvious here, but I have
>>>>pressed every available tab in every way possible. I
>>would
>>>>have started juggling drivers were it not for the fact
>>that
>>>>the capture and playback from the capture facility work
>>>>great.
>>>> Any ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Well stumped. Dom.

Yes, ain't that strange! Gives me headache too.
I have perfectly the same problem and i've been fighting
with it for a while, and nothing yet. I think it could be
something with PAL support since everything is natively for
NTSC. I'm using W2K and directx8. It's sad that such cool
feature won't work...

oscar
Dominic Reid wrote:
>>Yup, done that..it has to be something
>>a little more obscure.
>> The file I am using as a test was captured
>>by the sonic foundry capture facility from a
>>PAL PC100, the project settings are PAL DV and
>>the external monitor is set to PAL DV.
>> As I said the camera capture and write to tape
>>are O.K., so the OHCI card must be operational.
>> I tried pre-rendering, again using PAL DV.
>>
>>My brain is starting to hurt.
>>
>>Cheers for the reply.
>>
>>Dave Hill wrote:
>>>>Make sure you have set both your project and your
>>external monitor to
>>>>NTSC DV (or pal if its a pal camera)
>>>>
>>>>Dominic Reid wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can capture in Vegas Video 2.0b, I can write the
>>file
>>>>>>back to the camera (PC100)so I am very confused that
I
>>>>can
>>>>>>not use an external monitor (via the camera).
>>>>>> In preferences I have ticked the OHCI card box, and
it
>>>>>>even says that the device is connected fine and is
>>>>>>operational when the camera is firewired up.
>>>>>> I have pressed the 'view on external monitor' tab
and
>>am
>>>>>>using the same DV pal file type that the project is
set
>>>>to.
>>>>>> I am using a Gateway 700 meg P111,win 2K, with a
OHCI
>>>>card
>>>>>>and 256 megs of Ram.
>>>>>> I feel like I have missed the obvious here, but I
have
>>>>>>pressed every available tab in every way possible. I
>>>>would
>>>>>>have started juggling drivers were it not for the
fact
>>>>that
>>>>>>the capture and playback from the capture facility
work
>>>>>>great.
>>>>>> Any ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well stumped. Dom.

Are you using the updated release of Vegas 2.0b. I know
there were some bugs fixed in Vegas 2.0b having to do with
External monitor enumeration. BTW, Oscar, just curious,
did you simply install the DirectX 8 end-user redist or did
you install the DirectX 8 SDK or SDK redist. to get PAL
support working in Video Capture?

oscar wrote:
>>Yes, ain't that strange! Gives me headache too.
>>I have perfectly the same problem and i've been fighting
>>with it for a while, and nothing yet. I think it could be
>>something with PAL support since everything is natively
for
>>NTSC. I'm using W2K and directx8. It's sad that such cool
>>feature won't work...
>>
>>oscar
>>Dominic Reid wrote:
>>>>Yup, done that..it has to be something
>>>>a little more obscure.
>>>> The file I am using as a test was captured
>>>>by the sonic foundry capture facility from a
>>>>PAL PC100, the project settings are PAL DV and
>>>>the external monitor is set to PAL DV.
>>>> As I said the camera capture and write to tape
>>>>are O.K., so the OHCI card must be operational.
>>>> I tried pre-rendering, again using PAL DV.
>>>>
>>>>My brain is starting to hurt.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers for the reply.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Hill wrote:
>>>>>>Make sure you have set both your project and your
>>>>external monitor to
>>>>>>NTSC DV (or pal if its a pal camera)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dominic Reid wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can capture in Vegas Video 2.0b, I can write the
>>>>file
>>>>>>>>back to the camera (PC100)so I am very confused
that
>>I
>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>not use an external monitor (via the camera).
>>>>>>>> In preferences I have ticked the OHCI card box,
and
>>it
>>>>>>>>even says that the device is connected fine and is
>>>>>>>>operational when the camera is firewired up.
>>>>>>>> I have pressed the 'view on external monitor' tab
>>and
>>>>am
>>>>>>>>using the same DV pal file type that the project is
>>set
>>>>>>to.
>>>>>>>> I am using a Gateway 700 meg P111,win 2K, with a
>>OHCI
>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>and 256 megs of Ram.
>>>>>>>> I feel like I have missed the obvious here, but I
>>have
>>>>>>>>pressed every available tab in every way possible.
I
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>>>have started juggling drivers were it not for the
>>fact
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>the capture and playback from the capture facility
>>work
>>>>>>>>great.
>>>>>>>> Any ideas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well stumped. Dom.

I have the updated version 2.0b installed
but am a little confused as to the differences
in direct x 8.0 'sdk...' etc. I got the direct x
upgrade from a cover disk and installed over the top
of the older direct x 6.0.

Cheers,Dom.

dee wrote:
>>Are you using the updated release of Vegas 2.0b. I know
>>there were some bugs fixed in Vegas 2.0b having to do
with
>>External monitor enumeration. BTW, Oscar, just curious,
>>did you simply install the DirectX 8 end-user redist or
did
>>you install the DirectX 8 SDK or SDK redist. to get PAL
>>support working in Video Capture?
>>
>>oscar wrote:
>>>>Yes, ain't that strange! Gives me headache too.
>>>>I have perfectly the same problem and i've been
fighting
>>>>with it for a while, and nothing yet. I think it could
be
>>>>something with PAL support since everything is natively
>>for
>>>>NTSC. I'm using W2K and directx8. It's sad that such
cool
>>>>feature won't work...
>>>>
>>>>oscar
>>>>Dominic Reid wrote:
>>>>>>Yup, done that..it has to be something
>>>>>>a little more obscure.
>>>>>> The file I am using as a test was captured
>>>>>>by the sonic foundry capture facility from a
>>>>>>PAL PC100, the project settings are PAL DV and
>>>>>>the external monitor is set to PAL DV.
>>>>>> As I said the camera capture and write to tape
>>>>>>are O.K., so the OHCI card must be operational.
>>>>>> I tried pre-rendering, again using PAL DV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My brain is starting to hurt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers for the reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>Make sure you have set both your project and your
>>>>>>external monitor to
>>>>>>>>NTSC DV (or pal if its a pal camera)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dominic Reid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can capture in Vegas Video 2.0b, I can write
the
>>>>>>file
>>>>>>>>>>back to the camera (PC100)so I am very confused
>>that
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>>>not use an external monitor (via the camera).
>>>>>>>>>> In preferences I have ticked the OHCI card box,
>>and
>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>even says that the device is connected fine and
is
>>>>>>>>>>operational when the camera is firewired up.
>>>>>>>>>> I have pressed the 'view on external monitor'
tab
>>>>and
>>>>>>am
>>>>>>>>>>using the same DV pal file type that the project
is
>>>>set
>>>>>>>>to.
>>>>>>>>>> I am using a Gateway 700 meg P111,win 2K, with a
>>>>OHCI
>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>>>and 256 megs of Ram.
>>>>>>>>>> I feel like I have missed the obvious here, but
I
>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>>pressed every available tab in every way
possible.
>>I
>>>>>>>>would
>>>>>>>>>>have started juggling drivers were it not for the
>>>>fact
>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>the capture and playback from the capture
facility
>>>>work
>>>>>>>>>>great.
>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well stumped. Dom.

Basically, there's a couple different ways to get DirectX 8
installed. One is the MS end user redist installer
downloadable from MS, another is installing the DirectX 8
SDK (software development kit), and yet another is
installing the DirectX 8 SDK redistributable. The last 2
options will provide PAL support. When you say "cover
disk" what exactly do you mean?

Dominic Reid wrote:
>>I have the updated version 2.0b installed
>>but am a little confused as to the differences
>>in direct x 8.0 'sdk...' etc. I got the direct x
>>upgrade from a cover disk and installed over the top
>>of the older direct x 6.0.
>>
>>Cheers,Dom.
>>
>>dee wrote:
>>>>Are you using the updated release of Vegas 2.0b. I
know
>>>>there were some bugs fixed in Vegas 2.0b having to do
>>with
>>>>External monitor enumeration. BTW, Oscar, just
curious,
>>>>did you simply install the DirectX 8 end-user redist or
>>did
>>>>you install the DirectX 8 SDK or SDK redist. to get PAL
>>>>support working in Video Capture?
>>>>
>>>>oscar wrote:
>>>>>>Yes, ain't that strange! Gives me headache too.
>>>>>>I have perfectly the same problem and i've been
>>fighting
>>>>>>with it for a while, and nothing yet. I think it
could
>>be
>>>>>>something with PAL support since everything is
natively
>>>>for
>>>>>>NTSC. I'm using W2K and directx8. It's sad that such
>>cool
>>>>>>feature won't work...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>oscar
>>>>>>Dominic Reid wrote:
>>>>>>>>Yup, done that..it has to be something
>>>>>>>>a little more obscure.
>>>>>>>> The file I am using as a test was captured
>>>>>>>>by the sonic foundry capture facility from a
>>>>>>>>PAL PC100, the project settings are PAL DV and
>>>>>>>>the external monitor is set to PAL DV.
>>>>>>>> As I said the camera capture and write to tape
>>>>>>>>are O.K., so the OHCI card must be operational.
>>>>>>>> I tried pre-rendering, again using PAL DV.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My brain is starting to hurt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers for the reply.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dave Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Make sure you have set both your project and your
>>>>>>>>external monitor to
>>>>>>>>>>NTSC DV (or pal if its a pal camera)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Dominic Reid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can capture in Vegas Video 2.0b, I can write
>>the
>>>>>>>>file
>>>>>>>>>>>>back to the camera (PC100)so I am very confused
>>>>that
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>>>>>not use an external monitor (via the camera).
>>>>>>>>>>>> In preferences I have ticked the OHCI card
box,
>>>>and
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>even says that the device is connected fine and
>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>operational when the camera is firewired up.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have pressed the 'view on external monitor'
>>tab
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>am
>>>>>>>>>>>>using the same DV pal file type that the
project
>>is
>>>>>>set
>>>>>>>>>>to.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using a Gateway 700 meg P111,win 2K, with
a
>>>>>>OHCI
>>>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>>>>>and 256 megs of Ram.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel like I have missed the obvious here,
but
>>I
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>>>>pressed every available tab in every way
>>possible.
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>would
>>>>>>>>>>>>have started juggling drivers were it not for
the
>>>>>>fact
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>>the capture and playback from the capture
>>facility
>>>>>>work
>>>>>>>>>>>>great.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well stumped. Dom.

By cover disk I mean a disk that comes on the front of a PC
mag.I guess that means I got the first option you spoke of.

I have been to the microsoft site and am a little confused as to
which sdk to download....I am going for the visual basic dx8 right
now ?

dee wrote:
>>Are you using the updated release of Vegas 2.0b. I know
>>there were some bugs fixed in Vegas 2.0b having to do
with
>>External monitor enumeration. BTW, Oscar, just curious,
>>did you simply install the DirectX 8 end-user redist or
did
>>you install the DirectX 8 SDK or SDK redist. to get PAL
>>support working in Video Capture?
>>

Yes i have the 2.0b(362) version, isn't it the latest one ?
the directx version is the downloadable one. do you think
the extrnal monitor could work with the SDK versions, since
it dont work now.
How can those directx's be obtained anyway?
Strange thing is that the video capture started working
only after i uninstalled the previous version of capture.
and not by installing the new one on top of it. MAIN LINE:
external monitor still doesn't work for me in vegas.
nothing happens.

oscar

Oscar is using a mobo with the Via chipset...

Here are the known Via chipset issues on the MS website
(Win98SE/Win2k):

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q252/9/58.A
SP

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q253/1/52.A
SP

Here is a link to the MS website about general WinMe
troubles::

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q271/4/64.A
SP

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q252/1/85.A
SP


oscar wrote:
>>
>>
>>dee wrote:
>>>>Are you using the updated release of Vegas 2.0b. I
know
>>>>there were some bugs fixed in Vegas 2.0b having to do
>>with
>>>>External monitor enumeration. BTW, Oscar, just
curious,
>>>>did you simply install the DirectX 8 end-user redist or
>>did
>>>>you install the DirectX 8 SDK or SDK redist. to get PAL
>>>>support working in Video Capture?
>>>>
>>
>>Yes i have the 2.0b(362) version, isn't it the latest
one ?
>>the directx version is the downloadable one. do you think
>>the extrnal monitor could work with the SDK versions,
since
>>it dont work now.
>>How can those directx's be obtained anyway?
>>Strange thing is that the video capture started working
>>only after i uninstalled the previous version of capture.
>>and not by installing the new one on top of it. MAIN LINE:
>>external monitor still doesn't work for me in vegas.
>>nothing happens.
>>
>>oscar
>>