Nvidia Driver issue

Former user wrote on 2/8/2017, 9:51 AM

A few weeks ago MS pushed their Windows 10 "anniversary" update onto my system. For the most part it went fairly well. I did notice that some applications that MS determined were not compatible were just outright deleted from my system (like ccleaner) -- not a cool thing to do -- but MS swings a really big stick...

It also forced an update to my Nvidia drivers to a much newer version (375.95). But, in the process, the Nvidia control panel no longer displayed any controllable settings, only the build version.

Reluctantly I downloaded and installed the most recent driver build available (378.49) for my ageing GTX 560ti. It went fine and everything appears to work, except VP12. All preview modes now show a black display, so I have to now disable the GPU video acceleration in preferences to get any playback display function. BTW - I hadn't been using the GPU accelerated rendering options for years.

My system does offer PCIe 3, so I guess upgrading to a Radeon RX 480 might be the best overall solution.

Anyone know of any issues just swapping out an Nvidia card for a Radeon card?

Comments

Red Prince wrote on 2/8/2017, 12:48 PM

Gosh, stories like this make me happy I have completely disabled Windows update!

Former user wrote on 2/8/2017, 1:10 PM

How did you disable Windows 10 updates?

Former user wrote on 2/8/2017, 1:19 PM

I had actually set Windows 10 to NOT install the Anniversary Edition update about 6months ago and it didn't update -- until a few weeks ago and it ignored the setting and updated it anyway. From doing a little research it appears that MS considered the setting only a "delay" to the update, not to stop it.

Red Prince wrote on 2/8/2017, 1:21 PM

I simply disabled the update service.

diverG wrote on 2/8/2017, 2:33 PM

@ red Prince

Look like your are using gpedit.msc which I think is only available in windows pro.

Red Prince wrote on 2/8/2017, 2:51 PM

Nope. I just clicked at the Windows icon (lower left corner of Windows 10), typed the word services and clicked on Services Desktop app and it took me to the above image.

Another way is to press Win-X followed by a G, which will take to you to Computer Management, where you can expand Services and Applications and select Services. No need for gpedit.msc.

ritsmer wrote on 2/8/2017, 3:44 PM

@jdw: concerning changing to AMD: Some days ago I shut down my PC, removed the power plug (urgent), took out the Nvidia GTX970 card and mounted a new Radeon RX480 card.

After plugging in the power plug I rebooted the machine and installed the drivers from the CD.

Worked well and gave some 2x speed improvements (Vegas preview and render to MC mpg2) - so far, so good.

Then I got the crazy idea to remove the Nvidia drivers using DDU (Display driver uninstall) and then the trouble started - so when you install a RX-card then just leave the Nvidia drivers as they are on the machine. After a day of googling and rebooting and so on - fortunately the machine worked again.

Wanting to have both an AMD card and also an Nvidia card for another program needing CUDA (but not having enough space in the cabinet for the GTX970 card besides the RX480) I bought a short MSI GTX1050 Ti OC 4 GB card (with no need for extra PCI-e power). In theory possible as the MoBo has got 2 x full 16 bit PCI-e lanes.

This was a huge mistake, however. Have tried to install and uninstall and Google for 2 full days now - with and without the AMD installed - but get all sorts of quite surprising error messages like Code 43 (no other explanation), Unexpected error (no other explanation), cannot install the driver because no Nvidia card found...

So right now I just keep the RX480 for Vegas and accept slower reactions from other programs needing Nvidia.

teaktart wrote on 2/8/2017, 4:15 PM

Reluctantly I downloaded and installed the most recent driver build available (378.49) for my ageing GTX 560ti. It went fine and everything appears to work, except VP12. All preview modes now show a black display, so I have to now disable the GPU video acceleration in preferences to get any playback display function.

I've got a GTX560 and the newer drivers made a total mess of my preview window. I rolled back to driver 344.65 to try and restore order. I can now use GPU again with V14 >>> but V12 is still showing a completely scrambled preview which was not happening before I updated the driver, then rolled it back. I've installed 3 different V12 builds and none makes the preview with GPU work anymore..... not happy...guess I'm also not alone.
Service request from Dec 18th ...response from Matrix Jan 20th with no real solution just a recommendation to make sure I'm the 'Administrator' .... rather irrelevant since I already am...and other versions of Vegas don't have this problem....

Former user wrote on 2/8/2017, 4:50 PM

Yikes! I was afraid of something like that happening to me. Too tell you the truth, I don't do much video editing anymore. In fact, my primary video editing requirements are to assemble 3D animations I create using Lightwave 3D. So, my GPU needs are more focused on what LW can benefit from and not so much VP. I may just upgrade to a more modern Nvidia solution (GTX1070 or GTX1080?) and take a pass on jumping to a new GPU architecture.

teaktart wrote on 2/8/2017, 10:36 PM

I was working on a 3 camera shoot using multi cam edit functions and having them all in the preview window was great when it ran at full speed, but eventually it would crash, then keep crashing in V14. In desperation I'd go back and use it in V12...

Updating drivers seemed to be a culprit and I ended up using 'system restore' to try and back my way out...
I believe at this point it has something to do with the drivers not working well with V12 (and sort of in V14) for us it seems. Without GPU I was down to less than 10 fps which is just not workable...not to mention no fun~

ritsmer wrote on 2/9/2017, 1:51 AM

@jdw - just as a side note: here I also have decreased "normal" video editing - and use Vegas mostly for joining and post of animation movie scenes made with Muvizu.

Mostly the animated figures act in a normal, human environment recorded in 4K for post possibilities - and then all is given a suitable "cartoonized" look using i.e. the great NewBlue FX plug ins.