old film FX seems broken V16

Mindmatter wrote on 3/2/2019, 10:54 AM

Hi all,

I need a short pseudo historical sequence where I wanted to apply the old film FX. It seems to behave strangely - no matter what setting I chose, it always resets itself to other settings after closing it. I also got the impression that it considerably slows down Vegas. Can anyone confirm?

Thanks!

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Eagle Six wrote on 3/2/2019, 11:02 AM

I'm not experiencing this on my system. Can you specify what preset and settings you are using?

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Dimitrios wrote on 3/2/2019, 11:03 AM

It seems to be maintaining changes for me. It does slow things down when on best full but not best auto. It is kind of a gpu intensive effect though.

xberk wrote on 3/2/2019, 1:35 PM

Like the others above, not seeing this behavior on my system. I'm using Film Effects FX with Very Old Film preset.

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Mindmatter wrote on 3/3/2019, 7:25 AM

Thanks all,

I thought there was an issue with this particular compositing-heavy project, but just rechecked with a new project with just one MXF clip and also on a .png. Vegas instantly drops to 9fps, no matter what preset, I choose "scratches" and it reopens with "dust", sometimes it jitters even if I chose another behaviour. Weird, must be something in my system then, I suppose. I actually got some overlays with real film scratches but for some reason, the makers filmed them on a white screen which you can't really overlay without excessively whitening everything underneath...

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matthias-krutz wrote on 3/3/2019, 8:57 AM

I think it has nothing to do with your system. The effect is compute-intensive. But there is no high resolution required for historical footage..The effects are more natural at lower resolutions in the project properties.

I choose "scratches" and it reopens with "dust", sometimes it jitters even if I chose another behaviour.


Maybe the behaviour from the drop-down list is not as expected.This allows the amount of each particle type to be adjusted. In the drop-down list, select the type and set the amount. During the output, the settings of all types of particles are take in account. I would find it more intuitive if there were 5 separate sliders for the settings. But if you know it, it's not a problem.

 

Kinvermark wrote on 3/3/2019, 8:57 AM

Works here too, but....

1) Has always been very very slow. It's and old (but really good) effect.

2) The UI is a little awkward & confusing. You have to set the amount each type of particle separately, even though they are all under one checkbox.

Together this means you can make changes that take quite a while to show up in your preview, leading you to believe it isn't working. Maybe this is what you are seeing...or not :)

 

 

Mindmatter wrote on 3/3/2019, 9:08 AM

Works here too, but....

1) Has always been very very slow. It's and old (but really good) effect.

2) The UI is a little awkward & confusing. You have to set the amount each type of particle separately, even though they are all under one checkbox.

Together this means you can make changes that take quite a while to show up in your preview, leading you to believe it isn't working. Maybe this is what you are seeing...or not :)

 

 

Duh...Kinvermark, that really was my totally misinterpreting the GUI...I actually thought the parameter shown was the only one active unless you cbose another one and tuned it. Thanks a bunch for clearing that up for me!

I^ll also try and use it with a lower res clip or png.

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Kinvermark wrote on 3/3/2019, 9:48 AM

Any time :)

FWIW I actually prefer the film grain that this effect produces to all others including Filmconvert, 6k film scans, etc. It's actually very subtle and attractive on 4k footage.