Is this with ASIO mode or WDM or does it even matter?

I personally would challenge the notion that the Delta (M-audio) "sounds better" than Echo's cards.

drbam

No problem here with 2 delta 1010's. I suspect improper dpanel setups and\or AMD based daws with those claiming problems with V3.

The 1010 sounds great and I've used everything from aardvvark and echo to PT.
I use vegas 3.0c with the latest maudio MME driver, the soft synths will use the ASIO driver (no need to even go with v4 due to all the problems people have, and there's nothing in V4 that screams a need to upgrade from V3 anyway). DVD arch is another story.

Another route would be to go RME due to superb drivers. DO look into this, the pricepoint is a bit higher however.

For better info on recording\using your daw, visit www.prorec.com msg board.

JoeD

I love my delta 10/10 ! I have had no problems with it at all .. I had a friend help me set up my machine when I installed the 10/10 and it has been great. I have no pops , no noise, just nice clean audio. I have used it with sonar as well ( didn't care for the Sonar!!!) but the point is, it ran great on there as well. Everyone is going to have something different to say on the subject, people swear by whatever works for them of coarse. The delta 10/10 was recommended to me by a guy running a top studio in Florida, and I have no regrets . Again I think it is a great buy.

velacroix:

I have an M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 and am very happy with it's performance and sound quality. I use it with Steinberg Cubase SX and have had great results and rock-solid stability. However, if you need the low latency monitoring conditions that the ASIO driver provides, you may wish to be careful. On another recent post, I detail the issue that myself and two other users have had. On the bright side, the M-Audio 0029 beta driver (5.10.00.0027 is the current driver) may have solved the issue, but I have not tested it yet.

JoeD and tuckermonster:

Could you do me a favour? If you're using Vegas 4.0 or 4.0b, could you switch to the ASIO drivers within Vegas (options > preferences > audio device > M-Audio delta ASIO) and put the program through its paces. I'm using Driver 5.10.00.0027 (which is common to all M-Audio Delta cards including the 1010). Many of us are getting frequent exception errors, which disappear when using the Windows Classic driver. Hopefully this will help SoFo and M-Audio solve the problem.

Thanks,
Kevin.

Used to have a Delta Audiphile, now running a Delta 410. Not a snap / crackle / pop since day one in any of my applications - mainly Vegas, Sound Forge and Logic. Only app with stability problems so far is Vegas 4, although it's been much better since 4.0b.

Also, my studiomate used to have some serious issues w. his DAW, some of them with the Audiophile, until he threw his crappy AMD out the window and went for the same as I have (2.8 GHz Xeon w. hyperthreading). He's been happy as a pig in mud ever since.

M-audio <3 Intel =)

Delta 1010 rocks my socks. Been brilliant with Vegas4/Gigastudio and sounds fantastic!

The A/D is excellent, as is the S/N and it's been out such a long time they're one of the few companies who have the drivers right.

For me anyhow!

Jason

I am using V3 still ,(latest updated version) I ahven't switched over to V4 yet, I have too much going on right now that I connot risk wasting time. I will switch in June I think and hopefully any problem with the Delta 10/10 and Vegas will be worked out. If not I will keep using V3, I love it anyway. Tucker

I'm sure you'll be fine. Even if I used V4, I wouldn't set it to use the asio drivers, but the MME.

Joe, I've been using the Delta 1010 with 4.0b and ASIO drivers, there really aren't any problems with that side of things. You just get far lower latency than with MME!

yeah, I know. I use soft synths at times which will use the asio driver, with 2 deltas using the mme which facilitates easy soft synth recording.

I really just havn't seen a need to use the asio for vegas.

jd

I thought that... but I got addicted to those realtime EQ sweeps and adjustments, it just feels nicer overall to mix.

I don't use input monitoring or anything though...

Joe, how do use softsynths with Vegas? Do you run them independently and then record their output into Vegas?

I switched from ASIO to MME a few days ago, and I haven't had a single crash / lockup / hung dialogue ever since. I sincerely recommend everyone running M-audio cards to do the same, the MME slider adjustment artifacts are a small price to pay for near-Vegas3-stability.

Thanks for the tip, JoeD.

Well, I have 2 delta 1010's and V3 set to use MME.
The softsynths I have use ASIO, and the rest is routing.

Link to previous post on this with details:

http://www.sonicfoundry.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=19&MessageID=169663

Ok, that's a nice way of doing it. So do you play your softsynth parts live into Vegas, or sequence them on the other app before recording? I wish my keyboard skills were good enough to play them live.

It's all live playing pretty much. I used to do a ton of sequenced music which was essentially electronica\soundtrack work (with intention of that genre, more than trying to simulate ac instruments).

If you want to take that next step, take\continue classical and jazz lessons if you can, and get serious with it (smart practicing with retention, not just "practicing")... it'll change your world.

Note: Reason however is one of those great apps that falls in the sequenced\mapped electronica as you already may know. A nice app to write with if the chops aren't there yet and Goddamn fun.

Yeah, I could probably get my girlfriend to teach me a few things. She's classically trained, plays piano at her church, can read and write notation. I'm actually working on one of her songs right now. She'd sequenced it all using a free version of Logic off a magazine and a softsynth I bought a few years ago which I installed on her computer called Reality. But with those two programs, the midi timing is extremely bad. So I've got all the parts in Vegas, and have been time correcting them note by note, down to the smallest ruler marks grid. Her playing isn't that accurate either, but at least the music's all sounding a lot better time corrected.

Of course there's the fear that if I ever had any proper musical training, I may learn too much. Then I may no longer do things I would normally try, as it may be something that's technically wrong. Right now I just play and sequence what I think sounds good, even though I don't musically know what I'm doing. Friends will sometimes compliment me on chord changes. Of course not knowing what I was actually doing, I never realised those parts were chord changes. As long as I can hear when something's out of tune, that's the main thing.

I've seen Reason, and it looks like a good program for beginners, but I've always preferred hardware sequencers like my current MPC4000.