One V7 Disappointment ...

PeterWright wrote on 9/23/2006, 5:34 AM
Something I've posted about previously, and submitted formal suggestions, a long time ago.

When there are locked events whose relative position to other events would be affected by Ripple, whether Auto or Post, I want Vegas to flag a warning, saying:
"There are locked Events which may be affected by this Ripple - do you want to proceed?"

This surely can't be too difficult - it's something that crops up from time to time - when I've been deleting and shortening events, as you do when fine tuning an edit, then suddenly coming across a locked event, often way down the timeline, which has not been moved by all those Ripples because it is locked, and which now causes lots of confusion.

Please Sony - at the very least, if there's a technical reason why it's not practical - TELL ME!

Comments

winrockpost wrote on 9/23/2006, 6:33 AM
Great point Peter, though in my workflow i never use the lock event, wow what a mess it appears to create when combining with ripple. Even a color on locked events would help , how in the world do you remember what is locked ?
Steve Mann wrote on 9/25/2006, 9:38 AM
How would a color change of locked events help if, as Peter says: "often way down the timeline"?

One way I avoid this is that I rarely, rarely ever use ripple edits.

But, how's this for a suggestion to Sony: Add a fourth scope of Ripple that moves everything *including* locked events. (Move ALL means ALL).

Steve M.
PeterWright wrote on 9/25/2006, 4:47 PM
Fair point, Steve, about Colour not beeing seen if the event is "way down the timeline", although when I do leave events locked, it's usually by accident, so changing their colour or look more dramatically when locking would make it less likely that I would overlook them at the time!
Serena wrote on 9/26/2006, 12:02 AM
Spot once suggested that "ripple on" should be represented by a big red button. I do use it quite a lot and wouldn't want to be without the capability; "undo" is a useful associated tool! Guess the best approach is to turn it on when you want it, and immediately deselect it when done. And time to think about consequences -- a nice luxury!
Grazie wrote on 9/26/2006, 1:02 AM
"undo" is a useful associated tool!

Serena, you don't know how true that is! Oh yes . . . maybe you do know? Second thoughts, I guess you DO know! Huh? Auto ripple here too . . ?

And time to think about consequences -- a nice luxury!

. .pithy - Lol.



.. this is kinda like what I call the "AUTO-RIPPLE Tango" . . Those that ARE ancient enough, remember "Fernando's Hideaway" . Da-ah dum dum dum dum .. de da da da dah-dum dum dum dum . . etc etc . .

PeterWright wrote on 9/26/2006, 1:07 AM
Serena, I never have Ripple on - I use Post Edit Ripple (Ctrl/Shift F) on a single button on the Contour Shuttle Pro, and use it a lot. It's not the Ripple I want to be warned about, it's the locked Events.

What can happen on a big project is that I might do quite a number of shorten or delete events then Ripple or extend/insert events then Ripple, then find out later that there was a locked event not being moved by the ripple - it's too many changes ago to consider using undo, but had I been alerted earlier, I could have not rippled before checking out the locked event and unlocking it. I would be surprised if it hadn't happened to others too.
drmathprog wrote on 9/26/2006, 5:19 AM
It's not clear to me that Sony/Madison actually monitors this forum any longer with any regularity.
Grazie wrote on 9/26/2006, 5:31 AM
What would be neat is if LOCKED Events screamed a lurid colour under these circumstances? Bit like the PINK FLAG warning when Visual media is forced out of synch with its Audio part? Something like vivid ACID Green? OR Big chequers?

PeterWright wrote on 9/26/2006, 6:46 AM
> It's not clear to me that Sony/Madison actually monitors this forum any longer with any regularity

As I said, I submitted this as a formal suggestion to Sony maybe 2 years ago.
farss wrote on 9/26/2006, 6:52 AM
Grazie,
have you ever deliberatley gotten audio out of sync with vision?

If so you'll have noticed what a mess it is, someone explain to me how I can get audio 23 hours out of sync, I mean I'd love to find a tape that'd record enough for that to be feasible. Or maybe they mean it's from another tape?

And in another oddity, if I delete the vision part of the A/V pair Vegas still insists the audio is out of sync by some absurd amount. Out of sync with what I have no clue.

Bob.

Bob.
Grazie wrote on 9/26/2006, 6:57 AM
have you ever deliberatley gotten audio out of sync with vision?

No.
JJKizak wrote on 9/26/2006, 7:40 AM
I really like the big red button idea.

JJK