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Yoyodyne wrote on 7/16/2005, 12:27 AM
I guess you would have to nail down exactly what kind of "video" your going to be working with. I think Vegas defaults to regular 29.97 DV - between the pre-sets and custom options you can do just about anything (although I wish Vegas could go bigger than 2000 pixels wide).

As a kind of rule - match the video properties to the properties of your media, just right click on a chunk of media and go to properties to get the details. I also think there is a "match project setting to media" thing but I can't remember where it is - sorry it's late :)

hope this helps
Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/16/2005, 12:42 AM
SHould I not adjust the video properties to what I would like and not what I have?

What is Field Order?

Is the width and height to suit a TV screen? I do not know what I should choose here?

What should I choose for Motion Blur Type and the De-interlace method?


And, under Audio Option, what should I choose for 'Stereo Buses'?

Bit
Wolfgang S. wrote on 7/16/2005, 1:44 AM
No, you should adjust the properties to your source material. Preview capabilities are much weaker, if project properties differ from your source material.

In your render settings you will define anyway, what you would like to have after rendering.

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Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/16/2005, 3:11 AM
HI Wolfgang.

To check properties of my source material, do i click properties on a clip from the tape?

Bit
Wolfgang S. wrote on 7/16/2005, 4:50 AM
Yes, that is one way to check that. But I assume anyway, that you have DV-avi material, havn´t you?

Typically, user will work in templates that fit to their environment - so, for PAL it will be PAL DV (or PAL DV Wiedescreen), for NTSC it will be the template NTSC DV (or NTSC DV Widescreen). For FX1 material it will be HDV 1080-50i (PAL) or HDV 1080-60i (NTSC).

There is only one drawback with these templates - for DV at least: deinterlace method is still "none" in Vegas-6, for both PAL and NTSC. You should change that to "blend" or "interpolate fields" - since Vegas requires that for some internal effect during rendering. See page 233 in the pdf manual for some details. For most cases, "blend" delivers good results.

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Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/16/2005, 5:57 AM
Even though I do not have widescreen TV yet, should I work in NTSC DV Widscreen in anycase? (My environment is NTSC.)

Waht about "Number of Stereo Busses" in Audio Properties - What should I insert there?

Bit
epirb wrote on 7/16/2005, 6:07 AM
you would select widescreen if your footage was shot in widescreen.
maybe you can tell us what kind of cam the footage was shot on and what your plans are for for output. ie consumer dv camcorder and putting on DVD.

If your footage was shot in std 4:3 (reg tv, most camcorder shoot this format) and you select wide screen you will get a picture with black pillar bars on the sides. That is unless you pan crop but that is maybe getting too far ahead.

tell us what you got and what you want to do with it and we can give you more specific answers.
Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/16/2005, 6:46 AM
HI Epirb,

Yes, I am a novice and thank you for your patience...

I have DV footage from two different sources:
# Transfer of SVHS video to DV Tape
# Raw DV footage on DV Tape taken with MiniDV Camera

My footage is 4:3.

My goal:
Consumer DV Camcorder and stored onto DVD

Bit


epirb wrote on 7/16/2005, 8:16 AM
Then here's how I would recc starting out.
project properties set to :
on the video tab
NTSC DV (720x480, 29.970 fps)
leave everything at its default setting for now except I would change the prerender files folder to something other than your system or c drive.
and deinterlace method to blend
then check start all new projects with these settings, that will make sure all your prerenders go to that same folder every time. (makes cleanning up unsused files easier.)

on the audio tab
your best bet is to leave it on stereo, and busses to 0 for now too.

If you are only using one monitor set the preview quality(on the preview window, middle top area) to preview auto.

go ahead and assemble your project and get it to where you want, when you are ready to bring it into DVDA (if you have that and thats your plan)
then choose "render as:" in the file menu
and youll want to do 2 renders....
first one (cuz its the quickest) is choose the "dolbly digital AC-3" type and choose the Stereo DVD template
name your file what you want. and choose where you want to render it too(file location) again best if not to your system drive.
after its done
render as again and choose the :"Main Concept Mpeg 2 "type
and the "DVD Architect NTSC video stream"
make sure the file name is the same as your audio file.
{youll notice when you first reopen the render as box thats its one the last thing you rendered ie ac3 and you will see the file you just made.
if you click on it , it will put that file name in the box then go ahead and select the above settings for mpeg , this makes sure that the file name is Identical.}

now when you open up the video file in DVDA the audio file will automaticly be attachted.

Hope this helps getting you started.......

Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/16/2005, 8:32 AM
Many thanks -

Should I do a pre-render before a render?

Bit


Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/16/2005, 8:33 AM
Where can I get the Broadcast Colors Plug-in?

Bit
Liam_Vegas wrote on 7/16/2005, 9:39 AM
You already have it. It's called "Sony Broadcast Colors" and it is an FX just like all your other FX's that you can apply either to individual clips - or (as is more often the case with this FX) to the project as a whole. You do that by applying this FX using the FX button on the preview monitor window.
Spot|DSE wrote on 7/16/2005, 10:49 AM
But don't apply it to the preview window location unless:
a. You're willing to deal with much longer renders
b. You're willing to deal with slightly softer media in some cases

Create a track or tracks for titles, stills, graphics that are fairly certain to be over legal. Then apply the filters to either those events or to those tracks. If you were watching your exposures during production, it's highly unlikely you'll have illegal video, just illegal stills, graphics, and/or titles.

Broadcast filter is a good tool, but like any tool, needs to be used correctly. Just dropping it on a master output is rarely a good thing. I learned this the hard way with Vegas 3, and had a show rejected in part, cuz of how I did the final project.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 7/16/2005, 10:54 AM
Good points.... it's just the stuff we add to the video that has the chance of becoming illegal for broadcast. It's far better to not bring in illegal stuff in the first place (choose generated media settings that stay within the 16-235 range). and to take the time to make sure that portions of the project that have a chance for going illegal are treated seperatedly.

I'm curios Bit... are you actually intending to have your video actually broadcast?
Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/16/2005, 11:16 AM
Great discussion!

No way intending to broadcast my family footage...

Only reason why I am looking at using broadcast colors is to ensure I have accesss to all possible colors during editing phase...I think..

I don't even know if what I am saying is correct..??

Just a beginner...

Bit
Liam_Vegas wrote on 7/16/2005, 11:23 AM
The broadcast colors FX "restricts" your colors to those that would be safe if you were going to be broadcasting it on TV. It certainly does not give you access to "all possible colors"

You really don't need to worry about this if you will be playing family videos on your DVD player.
epirb wrote on 7/16/2005, 5:03 PM
And to a certain extent, when you render to DVDA mpeg for DVD, the encoding keeps it in the broadcast legal range,or something like that.
I'm really paraphrasing, something Spot explained a year or two back, he could explain it better, but the bottom line is you shouldnt really need it for DVD unless youve got some seriously bright colors in text etc..
little tip when you select a color for a title's letter for examle , you will see a little triangle with an exclamation point that means the color is definatly Illeagal, clicking the icon will make it the closet safe color.
Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/16/2005, 5:28 PM
Many thanks again guys..

Why do u guys refer to legal/non-legal for colors?

Bit
kchaz wrote on 7/19/2005, 11:05 PM
legal in the sense that it follows FCC and other guidlines and standards for TV broadcast....