OT: Anyone Using Flash Website Builder Program?

aldo12xu wrote on 3/20/2009, 1:19 PM
I'm looking to build a flash based website that would list our services and show samples of our videos. I'm looking at some template based flash website builders such as the one below, but I'm having trouble finding one with the right balance of flexibility and ease of use (I know HTML basics but not much about flash).

http://www.a4desk.com/

Can anyone recommend a simple, inexpensive (less than $100) template based website building program?

Thanks in advance!

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kdm wrote on 3/20/2009, 2:49 PM
I built my sites myself in Flash 8/CS3 for a customized approach (so I haven't used a template program to recommend), but you might want to check out www.templatemoster.com for templates you can modify (may be easier than using a template builder). Of course you are limited to the design, and just adding your own content. There are a range of styles from highly animated to more corporate and straightforward. May not be what you are looking for but it's one option.
UlfLaursen wrote on 3/20/2009, 11:21 PM
I use Sitespinner for my website http://www.ezzenz.dk

http://www.virtualmechanics.com/?app=spinner&ver=250

It has templates, not in flash in that sense, but you can implement flash quite easily.

I actually start using it after some recommendation here.

/Ulf
newhope wrote on 3/21/2009, 7:39 AM
I use SwishMax2 it builds in Flash and they have flash website templates.

http://www.swishzone.comSwish[/link]

They have a Lite version called miniMax which may suite your budget and they offer half price on SwishMax2 when purchased witha site template.

New Hope Media
Coursedesign wrote on 3/21/2009, 5:44 PM
Are you looking to build an all-Flash web site to hide from the search engines?

Then you've made the best choice, although it can't be guaranteed to work at 100% forever.

Or are you just thinking that you need Flash to put up videos?

Or to get some snazz?

There are better ways to do that.

Build an HTML or CSS web site, and use Flash for elements if you want. Then you'll be picked up by the search engines, and you can keep your life simple.

I take it you've figured out that Flash CS3/CS4 is not in your budget, either money- or learning time-wise...

newhope wrote on 3/22/2009, 6:09 AM
Are you looking to build an all-Flash web site to hide from the search engines?

That's no longer the case, although it used to be, read this from http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/swf_searchability.htmlAdobe[/link] regarding Flash searchability.

Certainly Flash sites used not to be able to be searched and indexed. Now that is no longer the case and programs like Swish's miniMax2 offer easy editing of website templates at reasonable cost then Flash sites aren't beyond anyone who can use more complex software like Vegas. Basically if you can cut and paste text and select images off your hard drive you can create a personalised website with Swish Templates.

If you want to spend a little more time learning the software you can do assisted scripting, modify the the templates to include FLV video or build Flash animation from scratch without the cost of Flash CS3/CS4 but totally compatible with Flash players.

New Hope Media

Coursedesign wrote on 3/22/2009, 12:15 PM
From the Adobe article you linked to:

Adobe is teaming up with search industry leaders to dramatically improve search results of dynamic web content and rich Internet applications (RIAs).

That vendor article was from last July.

What about today? Here's an excerpt from my paid subscription to Search Engine News (March 2009):

Flash content cannot be easily optimized for search engines, so you put yourself at a ranking disadvantage if you rely too heavily on it.

newhope wrote on 3/22/2009, 6:39 PM
You are quite correct indicating the article was from last July.

It also had this information in it.

"Content owners and developers do not have to do anything to the millions of deployed SWF files to make them more searchable.

I'll agree that in the past Flash files have achieved lower search engine rankings but I feel this is being addressed now that flash files are searchable.
Coursedesign wrote on 3/22/2009, 7:34 PM
All I can say is that I consider Search Engine News to be my go-to authority for what is real in SEO, as opposed to enthusiastic vendor announcements talking about how things would work ideally.

SE News spends a lot of money on testing every month, that's why I subscribe. Practice beats theory anytime.

Note that SE News says there is no problem having Flash content on your web site, as long as you have the keywords in your HTML, because Google only "does read Flash to some extent."

The difference between "fully" (HTML) and "to some extent" (Flash) could be you showing up on the first page of a search result, or on page 3-10000 (which one of those doesn't really matter, as generally nobody goes there).

So use Flash for snazzy graphics that go beyond what you can do with super-efficient animated GIFs, and by all means use it for video.

Do not use it for entire web sites, or for the only text describing your business, because that may cost you precious points with all the search engines. Contrary to what many people think, there is a lot of traffic from other search engines.

And Google, while being "best" at reading Flash, is not doing it perfectly yet.

Another factor:

HTML sites show your company and its products/services immediately, while many Flash sites say, "Please wait a minute while our web site loads."

At that point, many people immediately click Back to look at the next search result, and you just lost their business.

aldo12xu wrote on 3/23/2009, 3:29 PM
I didn't consider the Search Engine issue. I'm basically looking at sprucing up the site, so I might see if I can try to work in some flash elements with an HTML site. And I definitely want to be generating hits. So thanks for pointing that out.