OT: Atomic Bomb

epirb wrote on 9/10/2006, 7:06 PM
has anybody else had a chance to watch the movie/doc "Trinty and Beyond" on the HD DISC channel?
many things facinated me,
as far as film editing etc , the footage of the explosions was rully amazing. I read that the recently declassified footage needed and had some major restoration done. Plus, I am curious as to how much was "enhanced" by the colorists for effect or if they were as true as possible to some of the colors.

secondly, is the technical aspect of the whole thing, while leaving my political views out and I sure hope this thread doesnt go that way, but it is truly facinating the technolgy and power behind this. What i didnt realize was how many the US lit off.?.wholly crap!!!!
Being born in '63 pretty much when testing stopped, i never had any idea.
Like 335 tests in the atmos, and few hundred more above ground, below ground, over water, under water. Plus the other countries testing then it makes me think its amazing I wasnt born with three arms, now three legs...oops Im not gonna go there. But seriously did we have any idea what the after effect would be?

Like I said I am both facinated and frightened with the technology and the footage is spellbinding to me , the shapes,colors and formations the the mushroom cloud makes. the shock waves etc.

I know there are a few of you out there I swear would have a degree in Nuclear engineering, catch it if you can. I beleive its avail on DVD bt the high def was amazing.

Comments

apit34356 wrote on 9/10/2006, 10:29 PM
"both facinated and frightened with the technology and the footage is spellbinding " Yes, it is. True colors of the blast, this is a differcult one to answer. The "core" blast is across the spectrum, but massive in intensity( ie 10 microseconds long, this not exact). Secondary colors occurs as molecules in the close radius of blast are "ripped apart" and their elements(atoms) are stripped of their electrons( creating plasma, creating more colors). Then as the plasmas cool, they then chemical reaction with surrounding molecules or atoms, creating more color. Its like using a "super fuel" to start a campfire, very bright for a second, then as the fire spreads, the colors changed to reflect what is being burned.
fwtep wrote on 9/10/2006, 11:08 PM
Contact Pete Kuran at VCE and I'm sure he'd be happy answer any questions you have.

"VCE web site" Go to the Contact Us page.

Fred

PS: The composers who scored the bomb movies also scored mine. (And no, I'm not going to go there with the pun.)
vitalforce wrote on 9/11/2006, 5:44 AM
Strange how some of my training from elementary school stayed with me, until when watching the nuclear blast scenes from "The Peacemaker" and "Terminator" I knew there was a technical error. When the bomb explodes, its first action is initial radiation which burns everything to a crisp like a giant microwave oven; it is only after that, that the impact wave arrives and smashes everything.

What an insight to have as an 11-year old.
ScheffFrog wrote on 9/11/2006, 9:00 AM
You might be interested in the TWO MOVIES posted in Prelinger Archives that Trinity and Beyond used clips fron. Free downloads! Enjoy... well, you really can't enjoy watching man make a fool of himself now can you. But you could play with the colors and design your own Trinity movie...

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=trinity%20and%20beyond%20AND%20mediatype%3Amovies%20AND%20collection%3Aprelinger

Steve
donp wrote on 9/11/2006, 11:54 AM
epirb, I remember the winter of 1962-63 and there was a lot of snow where I grew up that year and my mother told me not to eat any of the snow as it was "radioactive" because of the airborne tests. She nor I really knew what that was at that time and I didn't eat any of the snow I don't think.
apit34356 wrote on 9/11/2006, 12:54 PM
donp, "do not to eat any of the snow", are you sure it wasn't "do not to eat any of the 'yellow' snow". ;-)
fldave wrote on 9/11/2006, 3:34 PM
donp, I remember my mother telling me that the snow was "dirty" in the early 60's. Looked clean to me. That explains it!

And no, that was before Frank Zappa, and I knew very well not to eat that yellow stuff.
Logan5 wrote on 9/11/2006, 3:55 PM
yes I view it years ago on Nat. Geo. Ch.
I was glued to the TV -
vitalforce wrote on 9/11/2006, 9:55 PM
Hey Frogger7777, thanks for the link. I was ignorant of the Internet Archive. Brought back memories. That's amazing footage!!! Now I understand what happened after Katrina. The old "Civil Defense" was morphed into FEMA by radiation.... Or maybe it's just the lack of schmaltzy background music.

P.S. That's it. I'm moving out of NYC.
busterkeaton wrote on 9/12/2006, 4:02 AM
vital,

Actually FEMA was professionally run in the 90's. It reverted to patronage this decade.
DGates wrote on 9/12/2006, 4:44 AM
It certainly is awe-inspiring.

The fact that a atomic/nuclear bomb hasn't been used offensively in over 60 says something about those that have these weapons. They're smart enought to know if they shoot one off, they're as good as dead themselves.

Of course, those wanting to see Allah as soon as possible wouldn't even second guess using them if they acquired such weapons. With some 20,000 nuclear bombs still in play, it's a scary thought that just 2 or 3 in the wrong hands could be frightening.

Bill Ravens wrote on 9/12/2006, 5:49 AM
For some 12 years, in my sordid past, I worked at Los Alamos. The intrigue and spying that went on diring the development of The Bomb makes a thrilling story, in itself. It's a wonder no one has yet made a movie.
vitalforce wrote on 9/12/2006, 5:57 AM
Busterkeaton, I concede your point since I was just making a joke. I should keep politics out of such things. Of course, easier said than done in a time when politics is in your face all the time.

Or more accurately, in your pocket....