OT: Bad News From CES for MPAA

Jay Gladwell wrote on 1/6/2005, 3:51 AM

It appears that Samsung is giving the MPAA one more thing to fret over this year, a "dual-tray DVD recorder, permitting direct disc-to-disc copying, is set for the third quarter with a $500 price tag. Samsung says it can copy two hours of video in 30 minutes."

So will the MPAA try to hold Samsung accountable for contributing to copyright enfringement?

Jay

Comments

Grazie wrote on 1/6/2005, 4:07 AM

Phhoarh! 2hours in 30 mins? Kool!

Grazie

farss wrote on 1/6/2005, 5:26 AM

Ah,
already had one for a while, mine only makes 3 copies in about 20 mins on 4x media, guess it's faster on 8x media.
The only thing that would make this interesting is if it made an EXACT copy of the ENTIRE disc.
By that I mean make DVD clones.
Then the MPAA would be having a dummy spit.

riredale wrote on 1/6/2005, 7:32 AM

The Samsung press release I saw didn't mention whether it broke the CSS encryption coding before making the copy; I would assume it wouldn't. So it doesn't mean you could take a Hollywood DVD and make a copy as a backup.

As for the speed claim, what's the big deal? I can burn a full disk in 8 minutes with my 8x burner, and state-of-the-art burners can do it in about 6. I'm assuming here that when Samsung says "2 hour DVD" they are implying a full 4.38GB disk.

flashlight wrote on 1/6/2005, 8:39 AM

Not burn......Copy. How long will it take you to copy a 4.38GB disc. Not 8 minutes!

Spot|DSE wrote on 1/6/2005, 8:47 AM

The Samsung (and GoVideo units) that are announced here at the show don't break encryption. It's a violation of the DMCA to do so. However, Nero's Recode doesn't break the encryption, it merely copies it, and I'm fairly confident that you'll see some sparks fly over that one. I'm fairly sure from various discussions that Nero/Ahead is gearing up for it.

p@mast3rs wrote on 1/6/2005, 8:48 AM

I would assume you can only copy non-protected DVDs with this unit. If not, then Hollywood will throw a fit and samsung would surely be facing serious legal battles for DMCA violations of defeating DVD protection.

What I am more interested in is the Nero Digital Players, HD_DVD/Blu Ray stuff, and I am quite curious if anyone is going to finally show a Wm9 HD player at CES.

p@mast3rs wrote on 1/6/2005, 8:52 AM

Woohoo, then my source was right about Nero Digital. Dang, its nice to have a contact that is really a contact.

Spot, any word on Nero Digital H.264 AVC players while you are there and do they have an expected US date for ND MPeg-4 ASP players? I know thye are currently available in Europe.

Spot|DSE wrote on 1/6/2005, 9:19 AM

Patrick,
Now that CES is happening, I can tell you that Sundance Media Group created and produced all of Nero's promotional and tradeshow material for the CES, NAB, and other upcoming shows. I'm not officially permitted to talk about the hardware, but the displays we did are all H264, and are playing here at the show. I'll ask what/when I can talk about stuff.

p@mast3rs wrote on 1/6/2005, 9:27 AM

Spot, one last question if you can get it in to the nero Digital team is they plan on offering some sort of DRM for content creators that use ND. I know this isnt their area of expertise But I am sure more content producers would love to use ND especially if it had some sort 128 bit DRM encryption scheme.

Thanks for asking questions that i would be asking if I was there.

Spot|DSE wrote on 1/6/2005, 9:46 AM

Nero is actively at work relating to DRM, Hollywood is their big target right now. There is some information on this subject to be found on their website, I believe.

riredale wrote on 1/6/2005, 9:49 AM

Flashlight:

I understand now. You're right, reading and burning are two different animals. Still, just now I was able to copy a 4.35GB Ritek G04 (DVD-R) burned disk to my desktop in 10:25 using my Pioneer 107 burner as the reader. I have not tried the same thing with a pressed disk, and I should also mention that the Pioneer drive has non-standard firmware.