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Zelkien69 wrote on 3/31/2011, 11:28 AM
This was something that Jon Landau was talking about months ago at IdeaFest. He said if he could change one thing it would be frame rate. More the better.
Personally the emotion of 24p in Transformers makes me want to vomit. Hopefully this will be the new direction of cinema where you can see what is going on instead of waiting for the camera to stop moving so you can see who and what is involved.
farss wrote on 3/31/2011, 1:28 PM
Cameron has long been a champion of higher frame rates.
Only thing I wonder about is how many cinemas have the facilities to project at anything other than 24fps. I'm not certain if even the DCI projectors can handle this.

Bob.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/31/2011, 1:37 PM
> "Could this be the "new" film look?"

So... the new "film look" is... VIDEO! ;-D

~jr
Rob Franks wrote on 3/31/2011, 3:17 PM
Thank you, thank you!!!

Maybe this is FINALLY the turning point where we get rid of this medieval, turn-of-the-century 24p rubbish.
fwtep wrote on 3/31/2011, 4:37 PM
Turn of the century film was often at 48fps. Lots of Edisons were, anyway.
GregFlowers wrote on 3/31/2011, 4:44 PM
Several years ago Roger Ebert was a proponent of MaxiVision, 35mm shot and projected at 48 fps, as a new standard for film. His thought was that the Maxivision cameras were capable of shooting either 24 fps or 48 fps and existing projectors could be cheaply retrofitted to become compatible with projecting 48fps. He estimated that it was 5 times better than standard 35mm projected at 24 fps.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/05/thats_not_the_imax_i_grew_up_w.html
Rob Franks wrote on 3/31/2011, 5:04 PM
"Turn of the century film was often at 48fps. Lots of Edisons were, anyway."

Try to avoid taking an 'expression' too deeply there FW ;)
ChristoC wrote on 3/31/2011, 9:13 PM
Avatar was at best a fancy looking remake of Pocahontas; question is - will Avatar 2 have an actual story?
JohnnyRoy wrote on 4/1/2011, 3:52 AM
> "Avatar was at best a fancy looking remake of Pocahontas"

Actually, I though it had a striking resemblance to FernGully: The Last Rainforest. I was shocked when Cameron said he had this story in his head for a long time and wondered how many times he had seen FernGully with his kids and not realized it. I've watched FernGully with my young kids several times and when they saw Avatar they said the same thing to me. It was definitely "FernGully in Space".

If you haven't seen FernGully it's a story of how the loggers cut down the trees of the rain forest and threatened the lives of the animals who lived there, told from view of these magical pixie fairies who also live there. Pretty much Avatar's plot exactly.

> "question is - will Avatar 2 have an actual story?"

Hmmm... maybe it will follow: FernGully 2: The Magical Rescue ;-D Actually, Avatar didn't need story. It was a special FX movie. Nobody paid attention to the story. Everyone watched the 3D and THAT is what's wrong with 3D (IMHO). It gets in the way of telling the story (assuming you actually have story to begin with) Perhaps once the novelty wears off? I'm old enough to remember when TV went from B&W to Color and I don't remember color getting in the way like 3D does. 3D is just annoying but I must admit, Avatar was some of the best 3D I've ever seen. There were moments when I forgot it was a 3D movie, and that's saying a lot!

~jr
amendegw wrote on 4/1/2011, 4:19 AM
"Maybe this is FINALLY the turning point where we get rid of this medieval, turn-of-the-century 24p rubbish."Hmmm, that was just eleven years ago. Let's party like it's 1999. [grin]

...Jerry

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baysidebas wrote on 4/1/2011, 7:41 AM
Back in the 80s I was fortunate enough to see tests of Douglas Trumbull's "Showscan" process, which utilized special cameras and projectors to capture and project 70 mm film at 60 frames per second. This was at NYC's Ziegfeld theatre and part of an SMPTE Conference program. To say it was mind blowing would be an understatement. But maybe it was an idea ahead of its time as it went nowhere fast.