OT: Filters for special light effects

kunal wrote on 6/14/2005, 12:25 PM
Hi,

I am making a short of a dream sequence -- for this I was thinking it would be nice if I can get some kind of light filters that would accentuate the lighting (like add special tints to the shots -- light purple, or magenta or something on the lines of that).

What would you advise? I have a Canon Optura-20. At this point, I'm trying to get the effects on the production side, as opposed to applying effects while editing with Vegas -- however, I'd definitely like to hear what I can do with Vegas in this aspect. It would be nice if I could get the same quality of effects in edit!

Thanks!
Kunal.

Comments

CVM wrote on 6/14/2005, 12:53 PM
Tons of filters from B&H Photo (bhphoto.com). Mist and Diffusion work great. From the Vegas side, try applying a glow to the video - a must. Don't forget, you need to think about how you are going to shoot the scene, and the audio, in addition to visual effects. Applying visual effects to my kid's day at the beach won't make it truly a dream sequence.
rs170a wrote on 6/14/2005, 1:05 PM
The Tiffen site is a great place to start looking. For examples of what they look like, go here.

BTW, try the filmmaker's trick of stretching an old pair of pantyhose across your lens. Secure it with a rubber band. The more you stretch it, the lighter the effect. Different colours and brands will have different looks so experiment. The only difference between us and them is that they put the pantyhose on the back of the lens.

Mike
tygrus2000 wrote on 6/14/2005, 7:46 PM
You are much better off to apply digital filters to your final photos, then you can choose any effect and not be limited by your original picture.

I use Mediachance's DCE Autoenhance program - it has dozens of digital filters you can preview and apply quickly - no playing around withe levels and such. I often use the blue filters to pump up sky shots and many others make for dramatic lighted shots that you would have a hard time actually creating in the field.

tygrus
skibumm101 wrote on 6/14/2005, 7:58 PM
I have to slightly disagree with the last statment.

Yes didgital filters can be applied and work very well , but there are many situations that filters applied in fornt of camera will give better results.

For instance. Lets say you have a bright sky with darker foreground. You can shoot for the foreground but your sky will be blown out, and you cant recreate the data that would have been there if it is recorded as white.

IF you put a gradient filter on, you will have a picture that is balanced and none if it is blown out or crushed.

THis is a simple example and there are many others out there.
Grazie wrote on 6/14/2005, 11:01 PM


Lads .. lads .. lads ! It's both - Filming Filters AND Post DigiFXs.

I seriously USE filters while filming to set exposure - NDs and maybe Pola & using Grads to "split" areas of filming to "puch-up" some layer there in front of me. I can THEN use, firstly, more effectively the footage back in my studio, which in turn can, secondly, give me more creative options then when I use/select DidgiFXs.

I do use the odd Tabac filter and Promist Black when I KNOW that IS the look I want - however if there is the slightest possibility to do WITH and WITHOUT I'd do this too!

Love my Formatt Filters . .. Love my Vegas FXs . . . . ! Just let them assist each other - yeah?

Grazie

ps . . love this thread . .right up my streeet!
farss wrote on 6/15/2005, 12:15 AM
The most interesting comment I heard on this topic came from a DOP when he was asked why he stuck a filter on the camera when it would have been much safer to do it digitally to the DI. He said that putting the filter on the camera removed the ability to change it later, he wanted what was on the film to reflect how he saw it on the day, not how it felt about it weeks later, perhaps on another continent.
Bob.
Spot|DSE wrote on 6/15/2005, 5:33 AM
Try checking out the Pixelan SpiceFilters, there are 2 that will greatly assist the "dreamy" look in addition to whatever glass you may or may not use. A promist, a vignette, ground to clear, pantyhose, or vaseline rinsed Sky1A will all help create that "surreal" look, and add that to some post-processing, you'll have yourself a nice dream.
But experiment a little before the "real" shot or you'll wind up having a nightmare.