OT: "Glossy" Printable DVDs, warning!

farss wrote on 10/11/2006, 3:17 AM
They look great BUT they take a long time to dry and until they do they're very sticky. Don't stack them on spindles after printing and beware of getting finger prints on them.
All in all not a good look if you have to print more than a few copies.

I've been trialling the Verbatim "Printable Glossy DVD-R"s, come in packs of 20 in slim jewel cases. Couldn't get them in spindles and I can see why.

Bob.

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riredale wrote on 10/11/2006, 5:47 AM
I'd be curious to know if these are made by Taio Yuden. A few months ago I posted a news item that said TY was going to make a new white glossy surface that was water and smudgeproof. If/when that happened I'd jump in with both feet, since the only reason I still use printed labels at this point is because they are also glossy and smudgeproof.

I note that Discmakers is now offering the new TY blanks in CD form. You can read about them here.

You can request a sample at 800 237 6666. Opens at 9am EST.
dcrandall wrote on 10/11/2006, 6:19 AM
Taio Yuden has come out with a printable "glossy and smudgeproof" (they call it watershield)16x DVD-R. It's available at www.rima.com. I haven't used them yet but it sounds interesting.

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farss wrote on 10/11/2006, 7:22 AM
Haven't been able to get the TY version of much the same thing as yet, I sure hope they'e more practial than the Verbatims. I have seen a smaple TY and the finish on the TYs is better than the verbatims so there's some hope.

Bob.
riredale wrote on 10/11/2006, 9:14 AM
I just noticed that these new TY disks are also available at Meritline. Price is rigidly set at about $1 per disk, regardless of quantity. Still, this is a huge breakthrough for me. I no longer have to print to labels to get the glossy look. They're 16x, too.
Stuart Robinson wrote on 10/11/2006, 10:04 AM
There's a new disc surface called "AquaGuard" that is starting to appear from a number of manufacturers such as Ritek.

But... remember that how stable an ink is depends on the type of ink and the manufacturer of the ink. For example, all the new Epson inkjet inks are essentially waterproof on most types of paper. When used on a blank disc they're fairly stable, all except the gloss black, which for some unknown reason exhibits all the problems the original OP mentioned. The trick is to design without using a true black...

Anyway, until I can experiment with AquaGuard discs (no sign of them in the UK) I get good results printing from an Epson R800 onto Avery glossy CD/DVD labels. Provided they don't have a true black, I can even run them under the tap without any bleed.
Chuck_DeFiore wrote on 10/11/2006, 10:22 AM
Hi Folks,

I new to doing DVDs, I thought I had read elsewhere that you weren't supposed to use labels on DVD disks due to problems with playing them. Has this changed?

Thanks,

Chuck
andremc wrote on 10/11/2006, 11:44 AM
No Chuck, nothing's changed. They're talking about printing directly onto the DVDs themselves using a disc printer. Besides IMO it lookws better than labels anyway.

Andre'
baysidebas wrote on 10/11/2006, 12:42 PM
When I spindle discs for drying I always use the "free" washers that come with spindle packages between adjacent discs. This prevents smudging and speeds up drying by providing for air circulation.
DGates wrote on 10/11/2006, 12:43 PM
I got the sample from Discmakers. These are made by TY. Contrary to your experience, I was VERY impressed with the disc. 10 minutes after I finished printing it on my Epson R200, I actually ran it under the water faucet. NO INK RUNNING! And it wouldn't even smear when I ran my finger across the wet surface.

These will sell for about a $1 a disc.
DataMeister wrote on 10/11/2006, 2:15 PM
john-beale wrote on 10/11/2006, 4:41 PM
I got some Taiyo Yuden "watershield" 16x DVDs with white inkjet glossy surface from rima.com and I was very impressed with the finished look from my Epson R320. They had a much more professional appearance than the previous matte white printables. They seemed immediately dry to the touch and I didn't have any problem with smudging.
DGates wrote on 10/11/2006, 5:04 PM
The one's from Discmakers are called HydroShield, but they're probably the same thing.

It boggles my mind that ink can even get into the surface, when running water over it won't dislodge it. Quite an achievement.
Steve Mann wrote on 10/11/2006, 10:51 PM
These are for offset or silk-screen printing, not ink-jet.

So, now they are my "scratch" discs for testing a DVD layout - Sharpies work for labeling.

Steve
DGates wrote on 10/11/2006, 10:56 PM
What are you referring to, Steve? We're all talking about ink-jet printable discs with a water-resistant, glossy surface.
farss wrote on 10/11/2006, 10:58 PM
No, these are specifically for ink jet printing.
Box says "Inkjet Printable"
The printable surface is gloss white, not clear through to the silver.


One thing for sure, I'm giving the Verbatims a wide berth, several of them have stuck in the DVD burner. The TY ones sound MUCH better.
Bob.
Serena wrote on 10/12/2006, 12:47 AM
>>stuck in burner

These just the glossies? I've been using Verbatim inkjet printable with matt-white surface (come on a spindle) without problems of any sort.
farss wrote on 10/12/2006, 2:36 AM
Just these new glossy ones.