OT: HD DVD Toshiba Player $500

p@mast3rs wrote on 1/4/2006, 4:21 PM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=626114

Seems like these folks are more in the know about things like this.

Toshibas Press Release:

TOSHIBA INTRODUCES LINE-UP OF FIRST HD DVD PLAYERS FOR THE U.S. MARKET


CES, LAS VEGAS – JANUARY 04, 2006 – Toshiba America Consumer Products, L.L.C. ("Toshiba") unveiled today the market launch details for its line-up of the first High Definition DVD players for the U.S. market. The new HD DVD players, models HD-XA1 and HD-A1, will take advantage of the superior capabilities of the HD DVD format, including outstanding visual quality supported by leading-edge video compression technologies, the high resolution audio specifications and the capability for enhanced functionality including, Advanced Navigation, also referred to as "iHD."

To coincide with the rapid market penetration of HDTV devices in U.S. households, Toshiba's new HD DVD models will offer consumers a feature rich, high definition media format for the home, building upon the great features of today's DVD – one of the most successful A/V products ever. Both the HD-XA1 and the HD-A1 will start shipping to retailers in March, 2006.

"As a leader in home entertainment and a pioneer in DVD technology, we are very excited to introduce our first HD DVD players for U.S. consumers," said Jodi Sally, Vice President of Marketing, Toshiba America Consumer Products Digital A/V Group. "With the support of some of the hottest films, we can confidently say that Toshiba's HD DVD players will come to market with important industry backing in time to meet the HDTV transition."

An Evolution in Video Home Entertainment and a Revolution in Technology
As a logical evolution of the DVD market to high definition, the HD-XA1 and HD-A1 have backward compatibility, allowing users to continue to enjoy their libraries of current DVD and CD software*. Supporting the leading-edge efficient video compression standards of MPEG-4 AVC and VC-1, as well as MPEG2, both models will utilize the new video decoder chip developed by Broadcom. To meet the latest advancements in Audio/Video interfaces, both models connect to HDTV sets via a High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI™). HDMI is the first industry-supported all digital A/V connection providing the transmission of uncompressed digital video and multi-channel audio on a single cable. The new HD DVD players will output copy-protected HD content through the HDMI interface in the native format of the HD DVD disc content of either 720p or 1080i. Through the HDMI interface, standard definition DVDs can be upconverted to output resolution of 720p or 1080i to complement the performance of a HDTV. As the conversion takes place in the player, the signal remains free from excessive digital-to-analog conversion artifacts.

High Quality Audio
Toshiba's HD-XA1 and HD-A1 support a variety of HD audio options to complement HD video offerings. The mandatory audio formats for HD DVD include both lossy and lossless formats from Dolby Labs and DTS® – including the newly developed Dolby® Digital Plus and DTS-HD.

The lossless mandatory formats include Linear PCM and Dolby TrueHD (only 2 Channel support is mandatory). The TrueHD format is bit-for-bit identical to the high resolution studio masters and can support up to eight discrete full range channels of 24-bit/96k Hz audio. Another lossless format (specified as an optional format) is DTS-HD. This employs high sampling rates of up to192k Hz.

Both models feature built-in multi-channel decoders for Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD (2 channel), DTS and DTS-HD. The HD-XA1 employs the use of
four high performance DSP engines to decode the multi-channel streams of the wide array of audio formats. These high performance processors will perform the required conversion process, as well as the extensive on-board Multi-Channel Signal Management including: User Selectable Crossovers, Delay Management and Channel Level Management.

The new HD DVD players can pass digital information to a Surround Sound Processor/Receiver via S/PDIF or HDMI. For Dolby Digital and DTS, the bitstream will be passed through both connections just as in a standard DVD player with the same interfaces. Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD content will be converted to a standard bitstream format that is compatible with any processor equipped with decoders of the respective formats and output through S/PDIF and HDMI. Additionally, all the audio formats for either DVD or HD DVD will be decoded to PCM and output via HDMI in either stereo or multi-channel.

High Definition Design
The design of both new HD DVD players was developed to complement the newly designed DLP™ Projection TV models as well as Toshiba's extensive flat panel TV line-up. Specifically, the construction of the HD-XA1 was developed not only for advancements in performance, but also for the refinements expected of a high performance player. It features a motorized door which conceals the disc drawer, function buttons and two front USB ports, for convenient connection of gaming controllers. The HD-XA1 also includes three different user selectable interfaces to further enhance customization and a backlit remote control that is conveniently motion activated.

Because HD DVD Discs spin at higher revolutions than a standard DVD, accurate mechanical engineering went into the chassis design of both models. A double chassis construction is employed to add stability and strength against vibrations and the HD-XA1 adds insulated stabilizing feet to provide a steadfast foundation for the device.

High Definition Market Launch
Toshiba also unveiled an extensive integrated marketing communications campaign to support the launch of its first HD DVD players. The multi-tiered campaign is designed to create consumer awareness for HD DVD and to support retailers with promotional and training activities.

A teaser micro-site was recently launched with the release of a full micro-site to follow.
The current teaser micro-site has been designed to educate consumers on HD DVD, and the launch of the full micro-site will include pertinent product and software information with links on where to buy, options for pre-ordering players, as well as listings of where to see product demonstrations.

Toshiba also announced a retail demonstration plan which will target the top 38 TV viewing markets in the U.S. beginning in February, 2006. In advance of the actual product launch in March, Toshiba's 38-city "road tour" will include consumer demonstrations and retailer training at many of the top electronics retail outlets nationwide.

Beginning this Spring, an extensive advertising campaign titled, "So real you can feel it," will target the HDTV consumer. This campaign will be supported by continued consumer education through the use of HD DVD collateral materials to help make consumers aware of the benefits of HD DVD.

To support retailers, Toshiba will offer an HD DVD in-store product display designed to enhance retail presence and to provide valuable information regarding HD DVD. The display also offers the retailer the flexibility to add HD DVD software to surround the display. These displays will work in conjunction with Toshiba's HDTV in-store presence, and Toshiba will also add retail incentives to encourage attachment of a HD DVD player to the sale of Toshiba's HDTV products.

Pricing and Availability
HD-XA1 ($799.99, March 2006); HD-A1 ($499.99, March 2006)

Comments

Coursedesign wrote on 1/4/2006, 5:15 PM
I suspect this very high quality no-nonsense announcement made some competitors turn blue...
p@mast3rs wrote on 1/4/2006, 5:16 PM
I am sure there will be a "ray" of sunshine for the competitors somewhere. Just not anytime soon ;)

Loved your pun :)
RalphM wrote on 1/4/2006, 8:22 PM
Have not allowed a Toshiba branded device in my home since they knowingly sold machine tools to the USSR that allowed them (and now other countries) to match our submarine propellers in quiet running.

Guess I'm just cranky about "friends" who sell out my children's security.

RalphM
Laurence wrote on 1/4/2006, 8:55 PM
You must be furious at GWB for putting us so much deeper in debt to the Chinese then! ;-)
Laurence wrote on 1/4/2006, 8:59 PM
What really bothers me about this HD DVD player is that since it only has HDMI and no HD through the component outputs, it will not play HD resolution with my Toshiba HD television which (being several years old now) only has component ins. Incompatability between manufacturers is one thing, but incompatablity within a make is hard to forgive!
p@mast3rs wrote on 1/4/2006, 8:59 PM
LOL I was thinking the same thing. How about Uhaul since they rented the truck to Timothy McVeigh and allowed him to commit the largest act of domestic terrorism in America?
Coursedesign wrote on 1/4/2006, 10:09 PM
Laurence is spot-on. The next world war will be fought on the economic battle field.

It's cheaper, it's consequences more devastating, and it gives China a vast advantage over the U.S. military resources where our taxpayers spend as much each year as the next 26 runner-up countries together.

"If you don't do as we say, and if you don't allow us to treat our citizens as expendables, we will charge you twice as much for our toys, tools, and consumer electronics." "If that's not enough, we'll just sell all our holdings of U.S state debt at the same time, so the almighty dollar will trade at $1 = 1 yen."

And Russia is already saying, "If you don't keep quiet while we create a dictatorship that challenges anything Stalin put together, you ain't getting any gas from us."

And ditto for the Middle East (except for the UAE perhaps).

And meanwhile, well educated politicians are planning for ICBMs that never come, with hugely expensive Star Wars defenses, cool remote controlled tanks and truly great fighter planes and stealth bombers that can outbomb anything, except then Walmart would have to raise the prices on their toys and cheap consumer electronics, so emergency codes would have to be used to bring back the current B-52 replacements.

The Chinese are biding their time, and the U.S. has virtually no influence over whatever they care to do. It's a sad situation that could have been foreseen also by us, not just by insightful dictators in Beijing (who probably have carefully read Sun Tzu in secret).

Same thing with Russia's gas and oil feeding major political self-corruption among power hungry countries in Europe.

Still, I see vastly more effort being put into energy independence in Europe than the virtually non-existent attempts here.
DGates wrote on 1/4/2006, 11:08 PM
"Have not allowed a Toshiba branded device in my home since they knowingly sold machine tools to the USSR that allowed them (and now other countries) to match our submarine propellers in quiet running.

Guess I'm just cranky about "friends" who sell out my children's security."

To each their own. But remember that the U.S. switches alliances too. Our enemy one decade might be our buddy the next.
p@mast3rs wrote on 1/4/2006, 11:29 PM
"Our enemy one decade might be our buddy the next."

Bingo! Can anyone say Bin Laden only vice versa?
farss wrote on 1/5/2006, 12:43 AM
Prior to WWII our PM at the time approved the sale of large amounts of pig iron to the Japanese. It's quite possible some of the ordinance that was dropped on Pearl Harbour was made from our iron, not that I was alive at the time but sorry about that, please forgive us, Vegemite really is good for you.
Said prime minister earned the nickname of Pig Iron Bob for his efforts. If it's any consolation the Japs dropped more than a few bombs on several of our north western cities too.
Bob.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 1/5/2006, 4:16 AM

NEWS FLASH:

Bob, the U.S. also sold steel to the Japanese in the years just prior to Pearl Harbor. So who looks more foolish?

And Larry, don't forget about Bill Clinton selling computer technology to the Chinese. You see, neither party can be trusted when it comes to the Almighty Dollar.

Now, we return to your regularly scheduled program.


overlandfilms wrote on 1/5/2006, 5:18 AM
In all fairness to the crap that is Uhaul, it was a yellow Hertz truck parked in front of the Murrah building that terrible morning.

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Jay Gladwell wrote on 1/5/2006, 7:03 AM

Actually, it was a Ryder truck, just for the record.


Laurence wrote on 1/5/2006, 7:35 AM
Our two most recent presidents have been two of the worst.

Yeah, back to the regularly sceduled program.

It seems to me that the main advantage of HDMI over simple component HD connections is that it allows more invasive and harder to breech copy protection. I would guess that it is unlikely that any HD disk player available in the near future is going to play HD over it's component outs (it will still have them for SD delivery) for this reason. Is this an accurate assessment?

I'm concerned because I have a large expensive Toshiba HDTV in my living room with only component ins for HD input. I have no real desire to change this TV. It's CRT and the video quality looks way better than what I see from LCDs that I'm seeing everywhere, and my guess is that it will probably outlast two of any plasma screens that might tempt me.

I've been looking for HMDI to component converters and of course there don't seem to be any.
jrazz wrote on 1/5/2006, 8:09 AM
I'm going to hold out for the holographic discs/players/recorders that should be coming out within the next couple of years if all goes well.

Inphase holographic discs
Coursedesign wrote on 1/5/2006, 8:12 AM
it will probably outlast two of any plasma screens that might tempt me

It is not likely that your CRT will keep up with any of the 60,000+ hour life of the current generation of plasma technology. My 12 year old CRT HD projector (Vidikron VPF40HD) is a shadow of its original self, with certainly less than 30,000 hours on it.

It seems that plasmas are more expensive to manufacture than LCD, DLP , etc. though, so I don't see much future for plasma except at the high end.
RalphM wrote on 1/5/2006, 10:41 AM
Still Cranky -

The difference is that pig iron, steel and Ryder trucks were not on the embargo list like the macine tools were. Our friends at Toshiba were allowed to license the technology only with the agreement they would not export to other countries. I suspect the Chinese now have it too.

Translation, Toshiba sold out our strategic advantage for $$$ and they knew it.

Still Cranky, my $$$ and no Toshiba branded products in my household.