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Jsnkc wrote on 8/30/2005, 8:13 AM
Usually about 5 times or so degaussing them in between each use...never ran into any problems.
rs170a wrote on 8/30/2005, 8:14 AM
I personally never re-use master tapes either. Tape is cheap enough so that it should never be an issue.
I work at a community college and have seen what happens when students re-use tapes a number of times. Digital dropouts are not nice :-(

Mike
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 8/30/2005, 9:11 AM
almost never - I do sometimes but that's only if I'm in a bind - forgot to grab a clean tape / grabbed the wrong tape.

Dave
Steve Mann wrote on 8/30/2005, 9:22 AM
"degaussing them in between each use"

A waste of time.

It's an anachronism of the early analog tape days that is completely unnecessary with digital recording.

Steve
Grazie wrote on 8/30/2005, 9:22 AM
Paid jobs. Never. My experimenting all - the time. If my nephew EVER gets any of his cameras to work, he gets them! But at £1.65GBs for SONY premmies, not a consideration. If something SHOULD go wrong on a paid job I can always say"This was a new tape" IF THEY should ask. But we all know that people think that re-used MUST be bad. Soooo... I Head them off at the pass by always using new on paid jobs. Period!

Grazie
Wolfgang S. wrote on 8/30/2005, 9:50 AM
Never. The material is so cheap, that I always maintain the original footage.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

PossibilityX wrote on 8/30/2005, 10:16 AM
Never.
Former user wrote on 8/30/2005, 10:25 AM
Never. I always keep the original footage for the future.

Dave T2
Lili wrote on 8/30/2005, 10:34 AM
Probably nothing bad will happen if you reuse a tape a couple of times, but why take the chance? I was told that the brand of tapes (I shoot with can be reused safely several times but the only time I would is if I'll be taping over it with something unpaid and not critical .
MUTTLEY wrote on 8/30/2005, 10:42 AM
Almost never, only if I'm in a real pinch. If its "important" enough for me to get my camera, load it up, and film it, than its important enough to make sure I actually get the shot.

- Ray

riredale wrote on 8/30/2005, 1:22 PM
Almost never, but only because if I'm shooting raw video then I want to keep that raw video forever. But I think the dropout issue is way overblown. Back in 2001when I used Studio7 as my NLE, we didn't have the luxury of hundreds of GB of storage. Fortunately, Studio7 allowed users to edit a proxy of the raw DV footage, and when finished, the user could then tell Studio7 to go back to the tape and pull in the actual DV material in full resolution. For a one-hour movie this meant the camcorder was constantly fast-forwarding and rewinding, going from one clip location to another. Even so, those original tapes play fine today.

So my conclusion is that a tape can be used dozens of times on a properly-adjusted camcorder. I just never have the need to do so.
farss wrote on 8/30/2005, 1:49 PM
The high end formats like DigiBeta and SP will withstand a lot of reuse but MiniDV forget it, some cheapskate gave me some footage on an old 'test' tape and the thing wrapped itself around the guides in my VCR. So be warned, you're not just risking what's on the tape, your gear can be at risk as well and the stuff IS so damn cheap.
Bob.
Jimmy_W wrote on 8/30/2005, 2:07 PM
Never had reason to.
Jimmy
craftech wrote on 9/1/2005, 5:53 AM
I re-use the full size DV tapes sometimes, but never the miniDV.

John
Bill Ravens wrote on 9/1/2005, 7:01 AM
The way the mag layer is vapor deposited on the substrate is really ...ummm....flaky. excuse the intentional pun. re-using a tape increases the probability that the mag material will flake off of the substrate. in my own experience, somewhere around ~5 uses starts causing the mag material to flake off sufficiently to cause dropouts.
craftech wrote on 9/1/2005, 7:38 PM
The way the mag layer is vapor deposited on the substrate is really ...ummm....flaky. excuse the intentional pun. re-using a tape increases the probability that the mag material will flake off of the substrate. in my own experience, somewhere around ~5 uses starts causing the mag material to flake off sufficiently to cause dropouts.
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Usually that is the case with Dry lube tapes not wet lube tapes. Panasonic MQ tapes are dry lube for example, but PQ are not.
GlennChan wrote on 9/2/2005, 10:57 AM
Apparently PQ and MQ tapes are both dry lube tapes.

I believe Jan Critteden (Panasonic rep) used to say they were different, but I think Jan later admitted that was wrong. (I may be wrong about that. Working off memory here.)

2- I don't re-use DV tapes because I might accidentally kill something due to user error. I've done it once :(
Stonefield wrote on 9/2/2005, 3:17 PM
I pretty much never use a tape twice. I label it and store it away. The tapes are indeed cheap enough and they're so small that you can store away so many in such a confined space.

Nice to have everything backed up too. I'm a pack-rat as well so I just can't throw anything away.