why not?

Curiosity gets the best of me sometimes, and I have to ask such a thing.

For that matter, maybe someone here is using Vegas or working in a market which hasn't been considered by others, and they'll learn something new.

Maybe there's someone doing the exact same thing as someone else in a different area, and there could be some good discussion by these people.

Maybe I'm just looking to get a sense of the community I am involved in (put a face on people so to speak).

Heck... Why not?

Dave

Mostly SoCal for wedding use.

hey grazie, do i detect a hint of paranoia? i'm the one with the old habits....

for my part i use it mainly for cutting (my own productions) - short artist profiles, medium to long (very) varied doco's, and editing long form client doco's.

none of these really 'stress' vegas (or my abilities) in the least bit in either sd or hdv, which i edit directly on the t/l. occasionally i'll be asked for some tricky-dicky eyecandy, but creating it in vegas is certainly more 'fun' than in any other nle i've used.

since i'm now sort of semi-retired, all i want is a 'peaceful' life - NO cutting edge technology that i'll bleed to death over, and NO more pulling my hair out (ha!) over clients idiocy, and technical ineptitude. i sleep easily at night with my registered copy of v8 under my pillow.

don't you just hate that, 'oh god, please, please, let's have a hassle free pc day...'

as to the op's question - i first got an inkling of what vegas was capable of at ver 3 by reading n/g's and forums, and realising it seemed to have less problems than many high end nle's which i was working on as a professional editor.

i feel very comfortable among this bunch of, apparently self-confessed, old-farts who seem to know their business, and businesses. and, like an (old) fart in the bath, i still manage to bubble around abit

leslie

btw. to get a clearer idea - you can see a very limited selection of the sort of stuff i do @

http://www.vimeo.com/user431180/videos

it's not really truly representative - there's no corporate, no broadcast (copyright, etc.,), etc.,

Heck... Why not?Please do not re-construct my question. I did NOT say you shouldn't ask the question. I wanted to know why you were asking it.

Now, David, if you had said why you were asking the question in the first place I may very well have nodded and thought some about it.

And Dave, as I said just 'cos I ask WHY doesn't mean you shouldn't ask. I didn't say that? Your obvious innocent misconstruing of my question leads me on to a lil' secret, STOP-PRESS we work in a competitive industry. Made more so by recent eco-political events. I can imagine many of the readers and contributors hereabouts may not be too open as to what they MAY do and WHERE they do it. But what do I know . . . ? I'm guessing that even this small interaction you and I have had will have this thread busting at the seams with enthusiastic content providers wanting to "Showcase" their businesses.

I love the intricacies of marketing. It takes on just so many forms, acolytes and agents for change.

Nice . . . . .

Grazie

"hey grazie, do i detect a hint of paranoia?"

Getting the respondee-contract "straight" (my replying) from the outset is my way of feeling comfortable. Don't you do that?

So no, not paranoia. Wanting to be clear from the outset. Dave's response confirms my initial thoughts. I did not say he shouldn't ask the question.

And again, there are many ways to market stuff . . this house has many "rooms" to visit.

Grazie

I use it for:

1. Plasma and LED ads strong animated graphics and video with audio non voice over “REALY BIG screens”
2. TV spots , stings with voice over …sqeezebacks and animated stings…run of the mill stuff
3. Event marketing promos before to get sponsors on board and after
4. High end theatre promos..Lion King, Chicago, HSM, etc
5. Event and entertainment spots for broadcast
6. to piss of FCP guys with quick edits
7. My favourite …Family stuff

Hoping to ad porn to the list as apparently Vegas is very good for this…explains why there is so much out there as Vegas is very quick

Rory

xfx,

vegas might be very quick, but one hopes the talent isn't.... ;~P

grazie,

agreed - nice to know where you are when you start off....


i wasn't implying you were actually paranoid, forgot the :-)


i sort of thought he was after 'areas' of endeavour rather than 'markets' - but then agin my wife is a linguist, so i'm always reading everything two ways at least.

omg, maybe i'm paranoid......

What markets are you using Vegas Pro in and how/what for? Leslie, he clearly asked about "markets", twice - no linguistics needed there?

I think your wife sounds really on-the-ball.

Grazie

she is, which is more than can be said for me.....

hangs head in shame and walks off frame right...

well, for clarity's sake...

my question was really asking both.... what areas of endeavor, what markets, you name it.

Forgive my lack of specificity.

Dave

Dave, I don't particularly mind your type of questioning; I have the same curiosity about people -- so how about telling us what it is you do with Vegas?

not a problem, i had actually just talked about that in another post i had which is what brought on this thread. I suppose I was just lazy and didn't want to type it twice :).

I do a variety of things with Vegas. Mostly short promotional hit and quit it type of work. I will rarely produce something over 5 minutes, though I've done the occasional full length DVD. I like to work with non-profits such as the salvation army, local churches, city gov't projects etc..., I will do some commercial promotional work as well ( though there's very little difference between the two except the pay is better commercially of course :) ). I like to take my talents and put them to use for more than just my pocketbook which is why I have carved out a little niche for myself in this market I suppose, though I could use a little more in my pocketbook (don't get me wrong). I also do support work for other companies who need to hire out editing, animating, etc..., and I have done 2 weddings (one was trying it to see if I wanted to make my living doing it, the second was confirming that I somewhat hated it :) ). I will do event work, though usually I like to do that via a live switcher and record the outputs of the live switching, mix it with some of the footage on the cams, and then it's a lot easier than it might otherwise be.

Beyond that I suppose I do the occasional highlight reel or photo show to have at an event.

That about sums it up I guess.

So Paul, how about you :)

xfx said:

That one alone was worth reading this thread

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I use Vegas at work (community college) to help students do their teacher-assigned as well as self-assigned projects.
I also produce teaching and promotional programs for departments around the college.
Personal use is for family videos and the odd thing for my kids grade school.

Mike

I use Vegas for editing old 8mm film and VHS tapes to DVD for clients. That is the bulk of my business, I also edit local mud racing events and creating DVD's for sale. I want to get into small business training videos and advertising as well as doing documentary style family videos for families of terminally ill induviduals. but that takes money. Love Vegas for this type of work it is fast and stable.

6. to piss of FCP guys with quick edits...

I never cease to be amazed by the number of editors who think that their tool is bigger than the tool of "those other guys."

Horses for courses... Vegas is unbeatable when it can be used, for the rest there is FCP and Avid.

Vegas' incredible speed doesn't help when what you need to do isn't supported.

I'll concede that Vegas handles some percentage of what FCP and Avid folks edit, but that percentage is not close to 100%.

>>>>I'll concede that Vegas handles some percentage of what FCP and Avid folks edit, but that percentage is not close to 100%.<<<<

Vegas handles about 200% of what FCP can do because a lot of people use it as their main DAW, something FCP can't even approcah or dream about.

FCP is just an NLE and not a very good one at all. Vegas is much more than that.

Don't forget Vegas' audio capabilities. That is why any comparison to FCP is laughable. FCP is just not even close to being in the same league. Get over it.

>>...What markets are you using Vegas Pro in ...

Broadcast
Special Events (could be weddings, High School stuff, etc.)
Conferences
DVDs for sale
Web (a little)

I've used it for anything it can be used in.

1) Remastering audio to mp3 and CD. That was for retail sale.
2) Lots of sports DVDs, weekend football mainly.
3) Heaps of pr0n converted to NTSC for Japan. Man they like it wierd.
4) Lots of religious stuff from all over the globe.
5) Recording and mixing audio.
6) Compositing HD for digital signage.

I kind of feel the topic is a bit off. Don't try to sell yourself on the tools you use. Anyone can buy a tool, knowing which one to use and how to use it is what counts. Times are tough, taking on anything is the way to keep the lights on. Develop relationships with the experts, that wayif something comes along that you don't feel confident about you can send the work or that part of it outside. Just knowing who can do what in your area makes you valuable.

Bob.

FCP is just an NLE and not a very good one at all. Vegas is much more than that.

FCP hasn't been sold as a separate product since, what, five years ago?

Final Cut Studio has Soundtrack Pro that I like less than Vegas, but it is good enough for BBC's in-house productions for example.

It also has Motion that can do a lot that Vegas can only dream about (and it would have to change PJ's after dreaming about it at night).

And DVDSP is the de facto standard tool for MOST Hollywood studios' DVD-creation needs, because it has all the DVD features that studios (and educational programmers) need, and these are not supported in DVDA, and I'm convinced they never will be (because SCS can't justify the cost of developing that level of capability).

Compressor has features and video quality that Vegas can only match to a very limited extent.

And even FCP itself: click on the pulldown menu for codec choices and compare with what Vegas offers, that list speaks for itself...

As I have said here many times, I love Vegas and use it whenever I can. I particularly love the way one can work on video and audio together, and I love Ultimate S and a few other plugs that dramatically speed up work that is just tedious in other NLEs.

For six years, I've used Vegas for theater and stage production videography. All multi-cam and with four to sixteen tracks of audio.

I am now trying to move into SMB services, web videos, etc.

Steve Mann